James Chapter 2

James Chapter 2 | I Don't Get The Bible by Yeshuans

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Here we go! Hello everyone ! Here is the little podcast “I don’t understand the Bible”. Not really official. James chapter 2, where Delaney and I talk about the Bible as a daughter and a father. She asks questions and I try to answer them, and we do our best. And you know, this is for the record and anyone who has questions about this can join us.

Perfect. Here is. Ava. She is three months old today. Three months. Was she... Born around this time? She wasn't. Point. And we prepared this in case she decided to be hungry. And she's just going to sail with us because she part of the family yeah thank you for inviting us she me and you we do part of yeshua go to yeshua therefore james chapter 2 my brothers do not have faith in our lord jesus christ the lord of glory with exception of no one.

For if a man wearing a gold ring and fine clothes enter into your assembly, and a poor man in disheveled clothing also enters, and you have respect to him who is dressed in fine clothes, and you say to him, sit here, in a good place, and say to the poor man, stand there, or sit under my footstool, are you not partial in yourselves, and become judges of evil thoughts? Great introduction to how we treat each other.

Depending on appearance. That's certainly how the world works, when a tramp walks into a place, it is not good. Received, and when a rich man comes in, everyone gets angry and says, it's with your faith in Christ that you won't be like that. This is a very direct quote for a lot of things happening today.

Yeah, okay. Do not blaspheme or look down on the poor. May the rich not oppress you and drag you to court. Is this what... I mean, people say, you know, you're so liberal, you know, you're not a capitalist and the rich don't oppress you. I mean, it's pretty gnarly. Yeah. Does he not blaspheme this worthy name by which you are called? If you fulfill the royal law according to the Scriptures, you will love your neighbor as yourself, you are doing well.

But if you have regard for people, you commit a sin and you are convinced that the law is transgressor. I want to point out that he calls them my brothers. Jacques was Jewish. This was written to the Jews. So he cites the royal law, but he doesn't even cite the law of Christ to love others as Christ loved us.

He cites the ancient law of loving your neighbor as yourself, which fascinates me. why do you think this is so I don't know I don't know the royal law according to the scriptures yeah which is the old testament yeah yeah yeah but if you have respect for the people you are committing a sin this is such an interesting way to talk about it. Yeah.

Respect for people. You use it a lot and it's always confused me a bit. Maybe that I didn't completely understand it. It seems wrong to have no respect for people, but that’s what we’re asked. Point. Yeah. And this transcends our natural ways. There are scriptures that say, as 2 Samuel says, man looks on the outward appearance of man.

It's true. But God looks at the heart. And so if we have God in us, we learn not to judge people by what we see. Yes. So the spiritual person will not allow his natural way of doing things, which is normal for us. Yes. But that's what she said, Amen. It's true. But it's God's way of looking at people in a different way.

All right. Point. So I have a secondary question. Do you think that what we're trying to do with Sean The Baptiste or United Front, which is we're trying to respect the person and their material values, do you understand what I mean? Do you understand what I'm saying? Explain to me. I guess that's wrong. How are you. Question mark. Um, I have the impression.

that I know we don't do that but it seems like we respect you in your Islam we respect you in your Buddhism yeah these are material values we should for me be rich and poor and we shouldn't even recognize them you understand what I mean yes but we are in this world okay maybe she's a little late yeah we we are in this world and in this world we must behave towards each other in depending on what this world offers us and what it represents mhm so I don't think that this is a really fair comparison whether we show some sort of respect to someone because they're a believer or not, or whatever.

It's not that he doesn't respect the fact that he has faith. This is because he pays attention to the material manifestations of faith, that is, religion. In a way that we shouldn't care. So you're saying we should just see them as people? Yeah, yeah. E, D. Believing people. And ? Well, one more time. I guess that's what we do.

Yeah. Well, I am. Yeah I guess that's what we do yeah well I'm yeah I guess that you are we do this because we look at the heart with faith and love the objective of a united front and faith and love which are a condition of the heart and it is not a question of consider them according to their claims for this or that or this or that okay point yeah it makes sense yeah the incorrect perspective of what we do and we. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah.

The incorrect perspective of what we do is that we say it is good, like being religious. Yeah, that's not what we're saying at all. We don't pay attention to religion. Yes, it might seem like that because we mention religion, but those are facts about people's lives. In fact, we say we don't care at all.

All right. Point. E. Therefore if you fulfill the law, the royal law according to the scriptures, you will love your neighbor. E. But if you respect your sins, you are committing a sin and you are convicted by the law as a transgressor. What means that the law convinces you. You are convinced. This means that you are convinced by the law that you are a transgressor.

All right. Point. Therefore whoever keeps the whole law, but sins against one commandment, becomes guilty of all. And do you understand this concept? Yes. Point. It's a concept that I think... Thanks to you and being raised by you, I really understand. And people really don't understand that. Yeah. We went to a restaurant a while ago, you, Larry, the baby and me.

There was obviously a Mormon family. And it was obviously a Sunday and I can't help but say how do you excuse this because you and all your prophets must obey the Sabbath day and you're preaching that you have all kinds of practices about it you're breaking that. that you can't be part pregnant, you can't be part cancer, whether you have it or not, and that's how God sees people who come to Him in their own righteousness.

So I would like that to be. Good morning. I wish we could teach this more clearly to people, don't try to go to God and justify yourself. Before him by your efforts to be good. It doesn't matter who you are, and that's why he sent his son. There is only one way, and that is through faith in his son who has done nothing wrong.

He is the only one who kept all the commandments. And this is why our justification is only by faith in him alone. Yeah. Do you think this tone is confused with that of a Calvinist Who says we can't do anything? Do you understand what I mean? Yes. And again once in context we have to take the whole scriptures and there we can do nothing at all to be holy before God in terms of righteousness.

Okay, we agree with that. All right. But once you have believed and done, you cannot do. that you want to follow, disciple, and pursue God, you are expected to begin to submit to His will and His ways. And it's a two-way street. All right. So you can't confuse the two. All right. So, that's where it's happening.

Thank you for feeding us. I love it. All right. Point. For he who said does not commit adultery. But if you kill, you become a transgressor of the law. Oh wait, I missed. For he said, do not commit adultery. He said, don't kill either. Now, if you don't commit adultery and kill, you become a lawbreaker as he just said.

Therefore speak and act as those who will be judged by the law of liberty. All right. Point. So he is starting now, he is entering into something. He says what you say, make sure that this is what you are doing. This is going to be a theme. What you say now, make sure to do it. All right. All right. Rise up.

Like those who will be judged by the law of liberty. Can you remind me of the law of liberty? Love. Love is the law of freedom. Yeah, okay. Point. For there is no judgment without mercy, and he has not shown mercy and mercy rejoices in judgment you know what it really means that mercy is better than justice yeah the lds church says mercy can't steal justice. It's a phrase they use.

Jacques says that mercy is actually better in another translation like the RSV or Jung's literal translation. He will say that mercy beats justice. Wow! And we are truly grateful for that. And when people say "I just want to live by karma", you are stupid. Yeah, that's insane. That anyone who claims to have karma is an idiot because he really thinks he can do everything so well that nothing bad should ever happen to him, but he leaves out the idea that he has done wrong.

Yeah. And if you live by karma and you have done wrong, you are dead. Yeah. You put your head back here sorry dog I use nicknames it's not bad them because he had heard judgment without mercy which showed no mercy and mercy rejoices in judgment it is looking forward to the judgment and so if you have someone literally stealing $10,000 from you, and you show him mercy, you are doing something better than taking him to court and putting him in prison.

And this is something for which mercy is essential. And in Micah, in the Old Testament, God says, “You know, I don’t want all your oil. I don't want your sacrifices. I don't want that. This is what I demand. I demand a contrite heart, a broken and contrite heart. And mercy, mercy, you know, and the more merciful I am, the more I am sold to mercy for everyone, everywhere and in all things.

And if you lack mercy, you are not yet mature in your faith. I understand, before I was merciless, I was merciless because you can have people with the law. You broke it, you died, it's over. But in this world, if we want this world to work the way God wants it to work, it is mercy. Is there any way there can be mercy and truth? Of course.

It's not like telling someone what they did. Oh no. Great, great, sorry, great comment, because it is not merciful to exonerate someone who has done wrong. Yeah. Yeah. Mercy is making them aware of the truth, but never having a heart of condemnation towards their failures. For what ? Because we also have failures.

So everything is always in the light of truth. He is the way, the truth and the light. So, someone comes and says, I had an affair. Um, I'm really sorry. This is a terrible thing to do to your spouse. It's not good. And you're going to have to deal with the consequences with your children, your marriage and everything else.

But I understand. So, because mercy is a bit like love here. That's probably another word for it. And we talked about how fairness and telling the truth are too much emphasized in Christianity, whereas I feel like we're saying the opposite right now. I'm trying to understand this because you know, Christians think it is their duty to speak the truth where there are no lies, right? Question mark.

And I don't think we disagree with that, but they do it by wondering where it is, you know. Because they often speak without love. Yeah, why? What makes it with love or without love? The conviction. Threats from hell, yeah. They, you must be judge and jury. Okay, that's, you know, I just want to tell you that I think you're probably making a big mistake here.

I am not judging you and you are free to do so. You are free. But it is. Really like that's where their heart is in terms of judging the other person and we can kind of gauge that based on their tone. Yeah. Bulk. Finally. Somehow. But again, we cannot judge their hearts. Yeah. And we can't and this baby is a feral cat.

And we can't know what motivates them to do what they do. You know, he could get an education. He could have a genetic defect. He might have an emotional problem. So we don't condemn them or judge them we just tell them the truth she's fine I agree with sorry sorry sorry relax mom and my baby you ok so what is that can bring my brethren if a man says he has faith and does not have works, can faith save him? We are in a difficult situation now.

So what do you say to that? I don't know if... A man says he has faith... And he doesn't have the works there. Can faith save him? This is one of the biggest questions in the New Testament. It is the division between Catholics, Mormons and Protestants. Yeah, like when you talk about the Mormon sitting at lunch on Sunday.

I feel like his answer would be that he has grace. As if he had faith in the grace of Christ which covers him when he makes a mistake. He's mixing it up, law and faith or whatever, isn't he? I completely agree with this from a Christian perspective. But I know from a Mormon perspective, he doesn't teach that.

They teach that there is a law irrevocably decreed before the foundation of the world. What if you don't obey him? You are dead. They obtain their righteousness before God through their obedience. This is where the lag occurs. As Christians, we walk entirely by grace, right. Because we don't hold people up to the wall for scriptural judgments.

we don't put people against the wall for scriptural judgments. But because we know what they really believe and they are absolutely hypocrites. Yeah. So anyway, Christians also mix works with faith in a certain way. So how did you experience this? I mean, we experience it all the time with I'll attribute works to doctrines and all that.

She touches your microphone, sorry. Has doctrinal positions and affiliations like with a church or you know, Doctrinal position and AD. Affiliation like with a church or you know, pras. So it's up to us to decide which works Jacques is talking about, okay. Because this is never discussed here. Jacques will tell us in the most remarkable way what his works are.

All right. But that's the debate. Mormons use this all the time. Your Protestant faith is that you are saved by faith, and he quotes James, which is why someone like Luther hated the book of James, because he says it goes against everything Paul said. Sorry. It's good. Um, okay. Let's read it. If a brother or sister is naked and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to him, “Go in peace, be warm and satisfied,” do not also give him the necessaries of the body.

What is this for? Oh, wow! Yeah. What is this for? Oh, wow! Yeah ! So now how do I describe salvation as? What do you remember? Like a coin. Oh ! Yeah ! And the coin has two sides. The two faces are not faith and faith. And the two sides are not love and love. It's faith on one side and you flip it over this coin of salvation and it's love.

All right. Point. So that's what he's sort of saying. Does this make sense? In this one? Did I understand correctly? He says, if you see someone who needs help and you say you are good, but you are not really helping him, what is the use of your faith? All right. Point. With accent serious. What is your faith for? But now it becomes law, you see.

And now, it becomes works-based. Yeah. So the other question is, what are we talking about? Are we talking about salvation or are we talking about walking in faith? All right. He talks about people walking and claiming faith. All right. So the presupposition to this is that his audience has faith. All right. Point.

All right. It's not about salvation. This is because our salvation, as Paul makes clear, is not based on what we do. It is based on faith alone. Yeah, so his audience, Jacques, speaks to people who have faith. And now he says, so how do you prove that you have faith? Can you walk by someone who is destitute and say, be filled, and do nothing to help them? Do you understand? I see.

Absolutely. Yeah. It's like my brothers don't have faith in Christ that way, they have it that way. It's not a question of whether they have faith. Yeah. And so it's not a question of salvation. And it is there the Mormons are missing something. Because they keep trying to say that we prove our faith by all the good we do.

But what they do not admit is that if they do not do this good, they are not saved in the exalted sense of salvation in the Mormon sense. So this is where we have to make a distinction. Okay, then. They give the example of the poor. Likewise, faith, if it has no work, is dead by itself. Yay! A man can say, you have faith and I have works.

Show me your faith without your works. I will show you my faith by my works. Oh ! Once again, what are the works that he is going to show us, they are not works of water, it is true, it is not one of his religious works, it is something different so continue you believe that there is only one god you do well the demons also believe and tremble he crushes the people who just say "I think" and who do not have the other side of the coin.

Don't tell me you're a believer and you really love God and walk. It's true. It's true. And that you love God and Jacques says “You’re crazy.” And John says the same thing in his Epistles. If a man says he loves God and hates his neighbor, he is a liar. They, therefore, are what they speak. It's interesting because it's a bit doctrinal.

MHM, it's like you believe that way. Good for you, you're like all these people, all these scholars today who are on the correct belief this way. Good for you, you are like all these people, all these scholars today that are about the correct belief, aren't they? No, it doesn't matter.

This is why we say that it is faith and love, and that love is essential. But again, we can see people seemingly showing love. She is good without faith. Yeah. And they are a combination unique that he tries to address here. Yeah. Does he ever talk, I mean, we'll read it, but does he sometimes speak of works without faith? No, that's what Paul is talking about. All right.

That's why Luther didn't like James, because Paul is very strict But Luther, with his ingenious knowledge, was not able to see what James was talking about Yeah, yeah, yeah, keep talking It's weird that he doesn't want Jacques Point, I want to understand why Because Luther did not understand what James was emphasizing.

Ah, he didn't know that Jacques was talking about people who have faith. And also Luther was the one who opposed Catholicism which only spoke of works. And Luther was the great Protestant caller who said it was all a matter of faith. Well, when James comes and says it's faith and works, I see that that puts Protestantism at fault.

I see, okay. Yes. Well. Um, we can finish this chapter in the next episode. Yeah, very good. Perfect. Thank you all. THANKS.