Ontology of Christ

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ONTOLOGY OF YESHUA

August 5th 2025

There is so much to talk about tonight relative to our topic at hand we just want to make a couple announcements.

We have a conference coming up in September created by Sarah Young of Check my Church and hosted by the Great News Network.

Speakers include -

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Well before we got to our 5 x 5s for August, where we share cultural recommendations as a means to help break lousy Christian culture down in music and the arts and to bring down those barriers many believers have put up around them, most of us are aware that last month alone we lost some major cultural players in this world, didn’t we?

Lets see,

We lost Malcom Jamal Warner in a drowning accident. (Picture)

We lost Hulk Hogan, a larger than life hero to many people in different capacities (Show Picture)

We lost Ozzy Osbourne, known in the metal world as the Prince of Darkness,

(picture) and we lost

A prominent pastor/teacher by the name of John MacArthur, a hard-lined Reformed theologian and promoter of Lordship Salvation (Picture).

What can we say or learn about these departed men?

Now some people might size-them all up, you know, in relation to their “apparent goodness,” by how they just presented themselves physically in the world and if that were the case we might see them in this order before God

MacArther

Warner

Hogan

Osbourne

Others might see this is shallow and line them up by what their lifestyles looked like – their sins, failures, weaknesses, so again, probably

MacArthur

Warner

Hogan

Osbourne

Some dive deeper and might suppose that God is assessing them by what they and focused on in the world – so an ardent reformer they would line them up like this maybe

MacArthur

Hogan

Warner

Osbourne

And some who love metal and entertainment and show might line them up like this

Osbourne

Hogan

Warner

MacArthur

But the thing I want to ask you is how you think God size them up?

Affinities? They were all blessed with skills and allegiances

Wealth? They were all wealthy -

Height or Fame? They were all famous.

Power? They were all powerful to some extent

Influence? They all influenced others and did so in some good and frankly really poor ways, right?

The fact of the matter is all of them, individually and respectively, according to what I know from scripture, and because God is NOT a respector of persons, will be assessed and rewarded with a heavenly body according to their . . .

HEARTS and WHAT they Sowed.

Their sin has all been paid. They all had the gift of human life given them by God and they all succeeded in this world according to their time here and the thing they focused on doing – even fell into doing perhaps.

Some tend to think religiously about the question and might quickly believe that Brother Macarthur will be first in line but this is where things get a wee bit hinky.

Should men who choose to make a living preaching what they believe is a true perspective about God be more rewarded then men who made their living preaching promoting heavy music, acting or wrestling?

Would it be that God would welcome a pastor into His presence over a nurse, or firefighter, or bank teller, or homeless man?

God is NOT a respector of persons – get it.

From what I can tell this is where we get things wrong about Him in relation to us. MacArthur was not more or less loved by God than Ozzy or Hulk or Jamal.

Frankly, John will be assessed at a higher standard because he choose to be a teacher about God and speak for God and to be honest the philosophies He promoted would bring more consternation down on his head from God that acceptance.

He was a flat out legalist and bore about within him a very similar heart to the religious leaders I read about in Yeshua’s day.

Our point in the Great News is that Yeshua has reconciled us all to God and so the reality is what do they – us – possess that God will rewards us all for –

Ozzys, John’s, Hulks and Macolms love. Their mercy. Their genuine heart for God and others. How much forgiveness. Benevolence. Patience. Time. Encouragement. Consideration. What was done for others and why – why did each of them do what they did in life.

Let me let you in on a fantastic and sobering reality – the central point, the core of all four of these men and of you and me, when we are assessed by our maker will be on our intentions, our motives which I maintain can be captured in the word heart.

We can’t judge any of them and won’t. But the point is we all have been given a life to live, opportunities to subdue, to exercise dominion over our surroundings, to express ourselves, to say and do and teach and believe what we are driven – but just because one souls prefers to entertain in Dark themes, another decided to represent his view of God and another chose wrestling and politics and another chose a television career – all of them – all – will be judged by their contents and intentions of their hearts and rewarded according to God alone.

All of liberality possible because of Christs Finished work. Don’t like this? Maybe examine your heart of hearts.

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RIP Ozzy. John. Hulk and Malcom. And thanks for your contributions to the betterment of people in this world and forgiveness for the things you made worse.

And with that, let’s go to another cultural foray and that is our monthly 5x5’s

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AUGUSTS 5 x 5

FIVE INSPIRING MUSICAL ARTISTS

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5. The Dandy Warhols – (Dig)

4. Theme Song from Summer of 42

3. Maynards band Puscifer

2. The Smiths

1. Stardust – Nat King Cole

FIVE MIND-EXPANDING BOOKS

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5. In Cold Blood - Capote

4. People of the Lie – M Scott Peck

3. Road Less Traveled - same

2. The Courage to Create – Rollo May

1. Wuthering Heights – Emily Bronte

FIVE STIRRING FILMS

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5. The Seventh Continent - Haneke

4. Mary Poppins

3. Adams Rib

2. Funny Games (both versions)

1. Night of the Hunter (epic in craft)

FIVE ARTISTS (of any kind)

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5. Elvis Costello

4. Buckethead

3. Bernard Webb (hmmmm)

2. Ai Wei Wei

1. Jack Whites newest album (No Name)

FIVE MODERN HEROES

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5. Architect Louis Khan (son Nathaniel’s film too)

4. Rosalind Franklin (double helix)

3. Ron Howards Hollywood Presence – wife family

2. Mary Wolstonecraft – A French writer and Philosopher who was a early leader of women’s in the world.

1. Phil Rosenthal – talk about Jewishness, Jewish culture, beauty of God – Phil Rosenthal – watch his show, somebody feed Phil – a humanitarian gift that Christians could learn tons from.

And that was our August 2025 5X5 – an effort to break down the walls of so-called “Christian culture” by showing devout believers in Christ that life is full of good things and we don’t have to take our primary focus on Him and remove why He gave us life more abundantly in the face of our adoration.

In order to rightly try and approach the ontology of Christ I have had to really think about the best way in the face of all of the obstacles that hinder overall comprehension.

Last month we tried to first illustrate the make-up of the One True God – and in the end we proposed that the One God is two, a perfect amalgamation of masculine and feminine traits.

I suggest that in this make-up we have the model for human life made manifest in and through males and females, of husband and wife and that His very make-up is stamped on the foundational elements of what makes up the most universal element of life – it takes two to create all biological life – and in Man, the two are masculine and feminine representations that reflect God Himself.

We can say this because the scripture confirms that this One God made human beings in His own (I would add plural image) and materially this appeared as male and female “maketh He them.”

And then afterward He commanded them to materially become one as He is One within Himself.

Herein lies the basic building block of God and the imprinted expression of His make-up into the world, especially the world made in His Image, and that is of Man.

In the Old Testament, God, whose personal pronoun name is YAHAVAH, first created all things from the word of His mouth – with neither word nor mouth being literal nor material but metonyms for His incomprehensibly powerful and eternal communicational and ontological person.

Last week we talked about how this God, YAHAVAH, who is also described as Light, Love, Mercy, Spirit, Good, Eternal, Uncreated first created all things and we might see what God created, He created by and through “words of Light, Love, Mercy, Spirit, Justice, Healing, warming, Kindness” and that God’s very words are synonymous with God’s very Spiritual essence, His very person, and that they are “spirit and truth.”

Let me stop right here and suggest to you that every single thing I have said to describe YAHAVAH through these traits, masculine and feminine, “in the beginning,” “forever, and always being part of Him” light and love, are what became flesh and dwelled among us in the person named Jesus of Nazareth, a fully human man.

But instead of seeing the man named Jesus of Nazareth before becoming flesh as an individual person, we might see His pre-existent make-up as being all the fullness of God’s described eternal traits, eternal characteristics, power, light, love, mercy and spirit, meaning to see that the “fullness of God Himself, who is Spirit and a consuming fire” before BECOMING A MAN.

Can you hear me?

So, there is no confusion, what existed before a baby was formed in Mary was God, one perfect plural of masculine and feminine traits presented in and through eternal Light, Love, Mercy, power, justice, truth and this is what became then BECAME human flesh and dwelled among us.

Taking it out even further, I would suggest that God also became a father by and through this incarnation and that the human baby became God’s only human son – in flesh, which could be tempted, tried, that could and would die.

Finally, I would suggest that where God related to the world in the former economy more through His masculine traits at the time, that what became flesh was manifestly much more of His feminine traits showing something really important to the world.

I do not think we can understand exactly how the One perfect plural God had, or gave us a human son that came from Him and Mary but we must agree, if we are going to believe in the words of that son, that

“to see Him is to see the Father.”

and that “He and His Father are one.”

This we cannot get around.

So that is the Pre-incarnate ontology of Christ – “He was the logos of God, he was with God and He was God.”

Scripture is clear in saying that, “God is not a man.” And that God is One. So drop any inclination to assign a person to Christ prior to His incarnation.

What became the son and human was in Spirit fully God Himself – hard as it is to wrap our minds around.

So, again, there is One God, who we describe as a perfect plural, and this one God’s complete attributes as God was made flesh and dwelled among us.

That is why Paul rightly says the following in the way that He says it

2nd Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Now that we have Christ’s premortal make-up in place, we have to admit that God in Him subsumed His eternal identity, wisdom, power and light under His earthly human status. This act accords with scripture as Paul also wrote in Philippians 2:5-11 the following:

5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10 That at the name of Yeshua every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11 And that every tongue should confess that Yeshua the Messiah is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Note the differentiation of hierarchy that is created and described in these passages by Paul.

Note that in the incarnation the human (Christ) submitted Himself to being “of no reputation,” “in the form of a servant,” and being “made in the “likeness of men.”

This means Yeshua submitted his flesh surrounding flesh to that of being an actual human son of the living God though He was equal to God inwardly.

Because of His incarnation these traits of God wrapped in human flesh the human person, the man from Galilee, was called from the beginning by God God’s beloved Son.

This submission to taking on flesh established a relationship between His flesh and His Father who is invisible and to whom He then dutifully submitted His flesh – his humanism, on our behalf – to fulfill the Law and all other things placed before Him as a human being as a means to unite the world to His Father.

Was Yeshua’s flesh, “God?” Not from birth. That flesh, which is directly reflective of His relationship to the rest of the human race, had to undergo mortality and its hardships, temptations and trials because we could NOT OVERCOME our flesh temptations, trials and sin ourselves.

And the human, Yeshua of Nazareth, born of a woman, born under the Law, the fulness of God with us, dragged that human body of flesh around with Him and experienced our plight – for us – as a means to ling, reunite the world in direct relationship with His Father, who, remained untainted, unapproachable, and unable to really fully get us.

The incarnation complicates our understanding His inward nature and make-up. What we fail to understand is that we really get even more confused when we try and take an individual spirit person pre-existing as Jesus the Son of God and insert Him into flesh and this world.

This is the confusing rub the creeds created for us by making God three co-equal, co-eternal, uncreated persons in One Being.

Rid yourself of that indoctrination and let the scripture by the Spirit move you to seeing God as One perfect plural whose living eternal words of light, power, spirit and truth becoming a human and when in flesh, God allowed and leading that man, that human, in flesh, by the power of His eternal spirit, to encounter all that troubles and fails of humanity, and facing it all successfully, offered His human self (His body, mind, will and emotion) from His heart of hearts, to experience death.

Now here’s the deal, about that particular death – because of God in Him, Yeshua of Nazareth – the man, born of a woman – was innocent of the wages of sin for Humanity – which is death.

He, the human, did nothing wrong and so by the Law of the land and the very Law of God, He alone did not deserve to lose His mortal life, His breath, his mind will and emotion.

His human blood was innocent. And He, as God with us, chose to offer Himself up on our behalf in ultimate and real agape love.

And death could and would not come upon Him unless He allowed it.

Again, what would cause Yeshua the man to allow His human life in flesh to be taken? Because He was God with us, it was what God is that brought Him to this offering – and this God is love.

So the man, when the time was right, offered/surrendeded Hims human self up and over to become the only acceptable sacrifice for sin that God would ever see, acknowledge or recognize.

Even though our very God was in Him that man had a choice. He even had a will that preferred, at times, other options to the decision, but the Man plainly did what none of us have been willing to consistently say to our Maker or do –

“Thy will, not mine, be done.”

Adam and Eve, made perfect, said, “our will be done.”

“Every human descendent from them has without fail said the same. The Nation of Israel did the same. In fact, no one anywhere from the human realm have ever done differently – except the Man Yeshua of Nazareth – we suggest that this was because God was in His human flesh fully.

And when He stepped out of that garden, it was game on for Him as He displayed the ultimate forms of human love for God and man – He surrendered His very human life over and reconciled the world to His invisible Father.

That is the incarnated Christ – the Jesus, Yeshua the Messiah. His flesh was assumed by the living eternal Word of God and He chose to let God’s words, unlike Adam, unlike the Nation, unlike you or me, guide His every move, to submit His human “not at all God flesh” to take a back seat to the will of His father.

And so we come to the end of the mortal life and second phase of the Christ and his existence.

Phase three speaks to the deification of the Christ, the Anointed one, the Only Son of God, the man born of a woman – meaning His very body of human flesh and bone was deified or made God.

Again, we would call this third stage the deification of “the Man born of a woman.”

What surrounded Him was not deified nor was it God from birth but it was God in Him who over time did the deifying!

But His humanity, from the flesh to the mind, to the will, to His emotions, from His desires, and temptation and every other human things about remained human until AFTER HIS DEATH AND RESURRECTION, where He was then called by God Himself, “His only begotten.”

From God’s only beloved – which He was from birth – to His only begotten which He became in and through His sacrificial death and incomprehensible resurrection of that human body.

That Greek word translated “begotten” is mon-og-genace and it means Yeshua was the only child, the single child, of God.

See, God, having given us freewill, knew that we would not naturally receive and respect Him as our Father in Spirit and truth - we are too self-centered and so He appears to have known from the beginning that He Himself would have to become one of us to do what we will nor could do for ourselves.

So just as God loved us so much He gave us His only begotten Son so too did His son so love us that He gave us Himself.

This is the hard to grasp, hard to understand relationship between God as the Father and Christ as the Son.

If God is one, and His very eternal words of light and love became flesh, actually the fullness of God in a human, we tend to get confused about how and who is the Son honoring, praying to, and following if the very same God is in and governing Him?

The key to getting this is to consider the introduction of flesh into the mix. When we remember that Jesus Himself said, “God is a Spirit,” and how other passages plainly state that “God is not a man,” and taking these things in hand we might say that when God “fathered a fleshly human man through Mary,” that the fleshly being of the child served to someone separate the child from the Maker, the God from the Man, and this complexity is why we stumble around in trying to understand it.

The flesh of the anointed one somehow served to distinguish, separate, sever, intrude, “influence” “mitigate” or alter God in Him and the reality of this seems to be so God Himself would have the opportunity or ability to triumph over the human condition in a way humans could not do alone or through the Law.

This moves us into a foruth phase of Christ the Messiah and His make-up – that of being received and accepted as God’s actual and only true human Son – yes, the Yeshua born of a woman was received up by God as God.

Rising up from the grave that all human beings prior entered and stayed because they merited it prior to Christ, He, MEANING HIS FLESH, HIS BODY OF HUMANITY, HIS IDENTITY AS A HUMAN, became, or was fully deified by God due to His victory and was seen as acceptable allowing Him to then ascend into the very presence of His Father above – with His deified flesh as a human.

Now we have the Father receiving His honorable and only human Son into where He dwells.

No human being had ever entered that realm before. Angels and councils of angels? Apparently they had but not a human creation.

Human beings were all going to sheol, a place of separation because of our natural affinity toward self-will, sin and fleshly failures – and Adam didn’t help matters much.

But now this man of Nazareth, God with us, the last Adam, a man, having overcome sin and therefore death and therefore the grave and therefore separation from his Maker, did for us again, what we could not do. And in the process, a being fully human became a human fully God.

So, in this fourth phase of Christ’s ontology – and we might see it as God became one of us (a human) and because of God given the world His Son, His human Son victoriously became God.

And this is what enabled Him to ascend into the clouds and assume a place at the right hand of God whom He as a man called Father.

Can we suggest that God looked over to the exalted man at His right hand and said, “Good Job, Son, you did good.”

Or would God look to His human Son and say, “we did good?” I don’t think either event would happen. Instead I tend I think the One God would say to the deified Son, “I did good.” And the human side of the Son would humbly agree and might say, “thank you, Father.”

I know this is cumbersome. Made up. But we are dealing with One perfect plural God becoming flesh – and that is going to require some real ongoing consideration.

In this Stage, the Son and according to scripture, would only be at the right hand of God for a period of time.

The scripture uses the word, “until” repeatedly to show that the work of the Son by God was part of a much bigger and overall plan.

Paul describes the end goal of that plan as a time when God would be “all in all” which would occur at the completion of everything existing in the former age.

Until that time arrived, God would be taking all the enemies of His Son that warred against Him and His victorious ways and putting them under His Son’s undefiled and deified feet.

We maintain that Christ remained at the right hand of God until this subduing by God on His behalf concluded. We agree with scripture that all this can be seen as finished when

All enemies of Christ were subdued (spiritual death was last)

Christ would leave His right hand position next to God in the Holy of Holies above,

And when He would exit that Holy of Holies wherein He offered His own blood up once to God and like a high priest from the Nation of old would come out to prove the offering was acceptable,

And that He exited that realm as a means to show Himself to those who believed and received Him as victorious, and would gather His faithful pure Bride up as promised and would save them from eminent promised destruction ong spoken of by the prophets, and to take her back to the New Jerusalem which is above.

We maintain that the deified Yeshua has done this, as promised, in stage four of his mission and then He gave all things back to His Father so that God is all in all, that God is in the Man Christ, Christ is in God, and that the very Spirit of Christ has now been left on earth reigning over the world and drawing all who seek to God forevermore, increasing the Kingdom forever.

Where is Christ now? We might suppose that this is the fifth phase of Christs ontology and the answers is, we don’t fully know.

Certainly He exists as God. Certainly He has a hand in all that God has done and continues to do – I mean, His very Spirit is what reigns over the human world empowering all who believe on Him to become the adopted sons and daughters of God too.

But because what was made flesh fallen flesh was animated by the incorruptible and eternal God causing the flesh to become God too, He certainly continues on forever more in the Spirit.

But what of His body? Can’t say. Don’t know. Perhaps it sits on the one throne above and we will all only see Him because to see Him is to see the Father today.

Perhaps the material mechanics of his Body are irrelevant today in the heavenly realm and we know and recognize Him only in spirit and truth.

We do not know. This mystery remains. God may operate and reveal himself ONLY through the heavenly body of Christ today or not. Or perhaps because what was once physical has been changed in the twinkling of an eye His sacrificial body is no longer needed.

All we can suggest is that God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, Christ did all that was necessary to bring all of God’s will to pass, and the way He thrives in His former body in the afterlife is unknown.

I personally tend to think of Him forever, as the fullness of God, existing in the heavenly kingdom as our literal human link to the His Father – which too seems entirely possible.

Whatever it is, we close out tonight by saying – Yeshua is the way truth and life to all humans and no person gets to the Father unless it is through Him.

See you next month.