April 12th Yeshuan Fireside
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Central Claim: Fulfilled eschatology is distinct from full preterism, particularly on the physicality of Christ's return. Remaining objections to fulfillment, such as the Polycarp reference, ongoing sin, and the two witnesses, carry less evidential weight than the internal testimony of Scripture itself.
Biblical Basis: Matthew 9:16-17 grounds the session's recurring theme: new wine cannot be poured into old wineskins, meaning fulfillment theology cannot be forced into existing preterist or institutional frameworks. 2 Corinthians 5 supports universal reconciliation without universalism. 1 Corinthians 15 anchors a spiritual resurrection reading.
Yeshuan Perspective: Shawn's insistence on "fulfillment" over "preterism" reflects Christiarchy's resistance to inherited doctrinal labels that carry institutional baggage. The wineskins metaphor directly challenges Reformed and LDS frameworks that treat tradition as validation. Epistemic humility appears explicitly: McCraney acknowledges unanswered objections rather than dismissing them. The weeds-and-flowers closing illustrates the Yeshuan posture of relational inclusion over religious gatekeeping, extending Christ's mission to the marginalized and outcast.
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LIVE CALL IN April 12th Fireside with Shawn and Delaney McCraney
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Hello everyone! Welcome ! I'm Delaney. I'm Sean. We are father and daughter with our family. We started Yesuance. We are predators. Which I think we should just use, because... I don't agree at all. It's so confusing. I say fulfilled. We are fulfilled. We simply define the vocabulary. But Delaney and I are going to fight.
And I guarantee she will win because she is stronger than me. Now that's not true but when you look at the skids what's really crazy is that the people who define it or the sources of google and AI these are all Calvinists or Reformed who say predestination is the worst thing in the world and their articles show it because they hate it so much.
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We would love to see you. Lindsay, Lindsay says Lindsay should see him. He's late. We'll get him. Uh. And Adam says, I love you all, I love you too. Uh. And we mean it, you know. So, I just wanted to talk about it. Be patient. This is obviously manifesting because it's not like a prophecy it's not what god wants it simply says that the cards have been played the game is there we know what the moves are and we just wait for god to f things. We are doing our part.
So join us and watch. Um... Okay, fine. So, me, if you have any questions, send them. The first here, V, of the AI bot in our application, is that you can go to yeswins.faith to get all the free content we've ever created. Um... to get all the free content we've ever created. Uh. But it is said, Matthew 9, 15, if you want to check this, it says that his disciples will fast.
Does this mean returning to the law? No. Will fast. Should I check it? Can you see it on my screen? D. No. Alright. I'm looking. If ever my Bible starts. " Alright. » “Maybe at least you should because mine doesn’t.” » “Flaunt it. » 9. Matthew 9 How can the guest, the bridegroom, cry with them? To fast under the law? Yes, they had fasting rules.
And he just, and so the Pharisees came and said to Yeshua, how is it that your disciples do not fast? And he says, listen, when I'm with my disciples, they don't your disciples fast? » And he said “Listen, when I am with my disciples, they have no reason to fast. I am here to give them the bread of life.
But when I leave them, there my disciples, the bride of Christ, will fast. » So, Anne, if fasting is a good thing, Fasting is a useful thing, and I see it a bit like prayer. But ultimately, you know, we have a direct relationship with Christ. So all these things have really been accomplished. Someone told me, someone recommended that I meet him, because he had negative feelings towards me.
And the person reading the Bible said, I'm going to pray about this. And what I meant, Hinten, when Hinten, why pray about it when we know we're supposed to love, we're supposed to forgive, we're supposed to go to our brother, we're supposed to do all of that. For what ? Why do you pray? Now this seems like a contradiction, because we are talking about relying on the mind.
Yeah. And so it's a bit like that. A two-way voice, but I don't see the need to ask God if doing something good is appropriate. You know, I can understand asking God if doing something fishy is appropriate, but to do something good, why do you ask God? Yeah. Yeah. It's really strange. Yeah.
What's really clear is that Christians don't have a good idea of what we have power over, do we? You know, that's what the denominations almost seem to differ on. Yeah. It’s like human involvement. And... Uh... It's hard, I think it took you a long time to understand that. A long time. And I understand. Yeah. Father Messia, good to see you. It was Messiah. It's a Metallica song. It is part of our leadership program.
He said he worked on the leadership program and really enjoyed it. Awesome. Uh... Wow, I'm delighted. And thank you for doing it. There are a few people, you know, some people always give up, but there are others, some people really turn the page. The leadership program, if you don't know, This is what we call leadership.
This is leadership without authority. And, uh... Basically, people who follow this program are part of the Yeshwan think tank, who is our board of directors that we consult, and... We all disagree and have different opinions, and it's not just to help, yes, guide the ministry. It's a sounding board. Love you.
So, watch YesFace if you want to be a part of it. But this person can pose the question mathieu 9 16 and I think about when I started and its verses say No one sews an unshrunk piece of fabric to an old garment because the piece will come loose from the garment, making the tear worse. Nor do we pour new wine into old wineskins, otherwise the wineskin would burst, the wine would flow out, and the wineskins would be lost.
No, they pour new wine into new wineskins and both are preserved. That's why, um, and continuing to do this is not an amalgamation of what's been done. It is new wine and new skins, in harmony with what was written there. This feeling is really hard. It's good that the Bible is very clear that this is a thing that happens, because you know that's what LDS in particular or other churches use as a feeling that you are wrong.
Yeah, that feeling, that you're new. Yeah, twenty old wineskins. Yeah. This feeling. That you are new. Yeah. Wines and old wineskins. The old ways would tell you that old wineskins are what is correct. You have to stick with the old one. And so what that says is we don't want new wine to be made. Stay true to the old and that in this S model, It's...
Well, you can see it. He... There is a... Tradition which still awaits a resurrection and a future judgment. How does complete predisism explain that if everything was already accomplished in the first century, I am really looking? Okay, good. And so the answer comes down to the following question. The reference to Polycarp is really based on only one place, and that is the one which, around 300 AD, uses Church history to write about Polycarp and his connection to John.
It's a reference. If you look at the internal evidence of Revelation, you will find that they are substandard as evidence of the return of Christ and the end of all. So be very careful when you believe this polycarp story, because I think that the internal proofs of revelation are superior in a text of evidence.
What are some other common arguments about fulfillment? All right. What are some other common arguments about fulfillment? All right. I don't pay much, but I know the biggest ones are polycarps. All right. The fact that we are still in a place where there are tears, because the apocalypse says that every tear will dry up.
Yeah. Revelation says that every tear will dry up. Yeah. And the fact that sin still exists, this is very important, especially for the Apocalypse, the two prophets who lie dead in the street. This is a very large model that they use. This is a huge prophecy that they are using. What is this one? It is a prophecy that describes the end times, the dead lying in the street.
In the street, and after three days, they will be resurrected. This is not a question that research can answer absolutely correctly. And any time you have a crack and people can say it's fixed, right? But like I always said, you can have ten thousand proofs and you can have three that can't be answered.
And the people who want to believe will look at the three. And I just think it's crazy and I don't think it's reasonable and I don't I'm not sure that's how God works. So I don't have a definitive answer for the polycarp. I have a belief. I don't mind being dead. I don't have any for the fact that sin still exists in the world, except what I think it might be.
And dry it, except saying that it is a spiritual sense. So, ah, these are like the main four. There is an era of the gentiles that I hear about more and more, namely that we are still in the era of the gentiles which spans 2000 years. This one is difficult. The millennium is difficult, because people take a zero and are literally waiting for a zeroilant.
And, uh, Satan, his power and his reign are also difficult because people can't. These are sort of the main ones. And you could put these 5 or 6 on a scale and take literally 2000 more pieces of evidence, and it doesn't matter. Um, I... seeing as... You know, when I look at predism and it comes from the critics who define it, I agree that the predators say that the return itself was not physical.
Yeah. This is not true. It's true. No. And this is where we differ from the pretoists, that's why I don't want to use that term. All right ? His name. Very good, that's good to know. They have a number of things that are inconsistent and so they share all of that somehow. That's how we got the fulfillment conference, and we had priests who were still going to church.
So we say that we don't want to put new wine into these old... wineskins. We want to take the fulfillment of what it is and put it into new skins, that say it's all over, so they can grow together. I see. Um, friend, that makes sense. And so there is also something about the resurrection. Did you mention it? Eh.
Well, one problem they have is that there are... people. And so, no, no, if the resurrection took place, how come there are still people in the grave? This is too big a problem. But I don't know what the other less millenarian loans believe, We believe in a spiritual resurrection, claimed by Paul in the first epistle to the Corinthians, and I would challenge anyone who disputes the physical resurrection to read the first epistle to the Corinthians and deny it.
I don't know how they do it. I would like to debate or talk to someone about First Corinthians and explain what Paul meant. Are the people we had at the Essetics conference predatory? Yes. They believe it was a return spiritual. I think they differ on this point. And that would be a better understanding, if I had a better understanding of the question.
The fullness of predestinism, but I don't believe it because I haven't studied what they teach. I just watched what the scriptures say. So I think most of them are standing on a resurrection spiritual. Some of them think we might even wait for this spiritual resurrection to happen, which is anachronistic. Some of them might think it's always spiritual, I mean physical.
And that's where there are too many factors trying to mix this wine in the old bottles. Um... Okay. Mistress, hello. I bought a Pilgrim's Bible. Yes. And I like it so far. What was the other oriented predator? Well, I mentioned a Thomson channel, but it's not pretoist oriented. Uh. But you can look to our Gospel of John to see a take.
Is it you who speaks or is it your mouth? It was really weird. What was it? While I was talking on this screen I'm looking at? Your mouth said, “Oh, that’s not good.” Yeah. So, but the Markov chain, after considering the pilgrim, Anne, which is basic and all that, she's on the Thompson channel. You will learn by lines and writings and hope you can find better bible scriptures that talk about accomplishment in a coherent way.
The Gospel of John that we provide is a book of the Bible that you could use. The book of Revelation speaks of it from a accomplished point of view. There are two. All right. Um, okay. Let's move forward. I want this photo on my phone. Photo. Baby. Oh. Um, okay. Sorry, I'm releasing more. Do you have anything waiting? She's Vanessa Darnell's granddaughter, and my question is, if God knows everything outside of time and knows everything that is going to happen, how does prayer change anything? My goodness, what a great question.
It really is. Thanks for that. I am 14 years old and my name is Juliette. I love your name. Yes, we love it. Well listen, granddaughter of Vanessa Darnell, here's a question, a couple of things. We don't pray for our will to be done because we walk by faith and trust in God. So what we pray for is that our understanding of God's decisions may be accepted.
So when we pray, we say, Father, please help my grandmother. Please help my person who is in trouble. We pray because we are asking God, on behalf of someone we love, to step in and help them. But our prayer is like Jesus' prayer. No, Father, your will be done, but yours. And so what we ask God is to help our hearts when He doesn't do what we ask Him to do.
This is our prayer. We will learn to accept His will and rely on Him. So we say, “Please, please God, heal my brother,” but we say, “Thy will be done.” » “Please help me understand your will. In this way, everything that happens, Juliette, you accept with faith, does that help you? I really like this question.
Me too, we'll see what she says. I also don't know if this was mentioned today in your teaching. Uh... You know, it says to pray for your enemies or you know that... Pray for people or pray for things helps you think about them as God thinks them and... change your heart towards people. This is what helps me in prayer. And even though I know I should Change your heart towards people.
of how God thinks of them through prayer. It's so beautiful. Thank you for this addition. I hope this helps you, Juliette. Let's look at Todd. Todd still struggles with ten words. Yeah. I'm trying to see. I don't see any specific teaching called the Ten Words. As if you hadn't done any specific teaching. Why can't I find it? We talked about it.
We talked about it when we got to Sinai in Exodus in our verse by verse. All right. And there is also a very good article on Torah Bits. Torah BY Torah Bites. Torah, B-Y Torah Bites is a very good article on the ten words and it helps clarify what these ten words mean. So Delaney is talking about it now. I am the first father of a seven year old boy and girl whom I love very much in their eyes and in their hearts.
My God, I'm a dad. Say one for me, please, so I can be the best I can be and a good father. Yes, we support our brother Adam in his role as a parent which is a huge responsibility and we pray that he will be a good father. But I would say Adam, but the prayer was said and it was while speaking to Vanessa's granddaughter, Juliette.
You know, our prayer does not have to be verbal and always stop on our knees. Prayer in your heart. You can say a prayer as you pass. I do this constantly when I'm with less fortunate people and there are people in difficulty, people who face terrible things. I pray for them that God will be with them. How he lives up to God.
All right. So I found in the Torah that it is a good ten words. Uh. And so he uses the Shema to prove the ten words, which are also the first words in Exodus 20. And the Shema is here. O Israel, the Lord our God is one.” And that these are the ten words and they are the same ten words that are used in Exodus.
20, where God says “I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of this and that. Have no other God before me.” So, Research all ten words and you can find out what they mean in Hebrew, but remember that it is probably Paleo-Hebrew, not Modern Hebrew. So it becomes a little difficult to find the ten words, but in reality there are only ten for this first commandment.
on screen right now on the website. I just looked up all ten words on this website and... The article pops up and it looks like you can learn more there, less on it. I know you talked about it. I just didn't, it was in Exodus, that the ten words were taught. All right ? Uh... And Juliette said. Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. It was in Exodus that the ten words were taught. All right. Uh...
And Juliette said. THANKS. This makes a lot of sense. I've always been a little confused about this and many friends have the same question. I'll tell them what you said. Great, Juliette. THANKS. 14. We love it. Someone who loves God and is 14 years old. You're on our side, girl. Yeah, it's great. Um... okay. Let's move on.
Do you have any questions from this week? Leave it to me, I'll get some more from our archives. Um... your questions. I... uh... my questions. My questions. I don't think I have any. Do you have any comments? Um... Okay. Someone wrote, “God loved the world so much, but if you do not reciprocate that love, then God will not impose himself on you and you will perish in the same way.
» Proposes a false dichotomy. Universalism is true. God doesn't love everyone. So you are not taking into account the whole of Scripture when you make a statement like that. God so loved the world he gave. He gave. This is what his Son did. He paid for the sin of the world. He paid for the sin of the world.
This sin includes everything we do because of our fallen flesh, because of Adam, the fall of the first Adam. The second Adam came and dealt with all the things that are in our flesh that are opposed to God. This means our strange thoughts about sex, drugs and lifestyle. This does not mean that God wants us to do these things, but his Son has taken care of them for everyone, whether they believe or not.
What Jesus shed in his blood was that he did not force you to place your will in the hands of God. He didn't force you to have faith. It does not require you to love others. So God has cleared the way for all things that prevent you from having a relationship with him. He was reconciled with the world. From Corinthians 5.
But just know this. Each person must choose. This is not universalism. Each person must choose to humbly submit to God and this gift he has given us. So risk in some of the things you say “and y” it doesn’t matter who wrote that. But that's my point of view. That was a comment from me too. Oh, a master. Yeah.
What is your karma? This is a comment from me too. Oh, master, what is your karma? It's funny, for I think there is a spirit of this world and that spirit is reflected in what I say about it. Everything in the world, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes and the pride of life does not come from the Father, but is of this world.
So I think in this world there can be spiritual forms and things that result in karma. All right. But I do not believe that in relation to God karma is a reality. And I pray to God that this is not the case. Because if karma is a reality with God, we're all in big trouble. let this not be the case. Because if karma is a reality with God, we're all in big trouble. It's like we're still going eye for an eye.
Which means if you accidentally knock out someone's tooth, God is going to take you yours and karma. So I don't think anyone would really want karma to be a reality when it comes to God. In this world it could be with your job, and how you behave towards others could less be a master, but not with God. Karma does not exist.
Yeah, it's a good way to say it. I would like you to hope that karma does not exist. Yeah, so interesting. Like he was doing things right. And just so you know, Yeshua clearly taught that karma in this world works the opposite, because if you believe in him, you are going to be persecuted. Does this sound like karma? It looks like the opposite.
You don't get the same thing. Karma is when you do something and you get something back. So I did, oh I did well. I'm going to have a good life now, not with Christ. I did well. And now I'm going to be convinced that I haven't been able to ask you the right question about this yet, which is the Christian perspective fundamentally, is that we are...
fishermen? Not ? We are fishermen, aren't we? But people find that they're, like, ah, it's so hard. People have struggling so much with it right now because of the guilt it causes, the shame, you know. And that's what I, it seems like that's what fulfillment is all about. He just, but, he just has the evil that religion inflicts on people in the name of sin.
In the name of sin. Yeah. But, uh, the, the fundamental thing about the biblical story is that we're not good, right? Not ? We're not good, are we? An ophiques. And this goes back to Adam and Eve, Entron, and we talked about this throughout the last episode of Mormonism. Part of the problem, sorry, Entron, sorry, is that they see it as a good thing.
Like they have to reverse engineer it to make it good. But really what it is is that when given a choice, humans aren't good, right? And we are created that way. Oh, she... created? The provision for Eve to choose. This is how it was created. She was created with the capacity to sin, but not to do it. She was not predestined to sin.
Yeah. I understand why people have trouble thinking that. Because it's like she did. Yeah, she did. She did what she could do. Do. But she had a choice. She had a tree life and a tree of knowledge good and bad. Don't eat this. Eat this and she had the choice. All right ? Little less than the question is that at this moment we no longer have the choice. As if we are incapable of choosing the right tree all the time in our lives.
Okay, make it a year, and that's when fulfillment comes. We are all endowed with the ability to choose correctly. But if our will and our desire, our lack of desire to believe, our pride, if our desire not to love are stronger than that, we choose to follow the other side. But everyone was stripped of their belongings so that they could have the will to have faith.
Do you think it is possible for a human being to live perfectly now? Not perfectly. And that's the problem. We are in our broken and fallen flesh. This is what Christians talk about when they say we are sinners. But we don't have the ability to choose God's solution to this sin which he took care of and start living differently.
Through his Son. Yeah. Yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah. Let me highlight other people's ideas. Belief in the Trinity has always troubled me. Is God Jesus the Holy Spirit? Lord, help me understand what the Bible really says on this subject. Well, you know, we don't want to divide over God's anthology because, you know, the argument is that the Trinity has existed for 2000 years.
It's true. I don't think the Scriptures teach the Trinity. The Holy Spirit is one of his principal ones, for Paul never mentions the Holy Spirit in his acknowledgment of God. But nevertheless, regardless of your belief in God, we all see through a dark mirror. I can't tell you that I know God perfectly and neither can anyone else.
And that includes its constitution. Men tried to create a trinity so that Constantine and everyone else could understand everything and have order. But I think it's a man-made product. What I am saying is that you individually seek God in spirit and spirit. The truth as best you can. It will reveal itself to you and in whatever way suits you at your maturity level.
What you know, what you have learned, and our response to others who differ, is love. If someone said, Mormons I don't agree with their version of God at all. But if they say, I think God was this. You say, okay, that's where you are. You have this choice. Keep looking. See what you discover. Those who seek will find.
Those who do not seek will not. And that's what we're talking about. All right ? Yeah. Is there an official season for the birth of Jesus? And I heard from someone that it was spring instead of winter. Yeah, I think it was closer to spring. Uh. But there are differences because of the dating of all the texts.
So it's difficult to say. I'll tell you one thing, I don't think it was close to Christmas. I think it was us hijacking a pagan holiday to reclaim it. For our purposes, as we did at Easter, at Christmas, when you, you... take care of animals. If it had been cold, he would have kept them in the stables, I think.
At least. Yay! That's it. I like this one, Adam Hawkins. An interesting remark. All right. Uh... Keep sending your questions. You can also call us on 20 2022. HOTM. We will contact the younger generation in October, September and October. 2022, HOTM, we will contact the younger generation in October, September and October.
You are going to be part of it, if only by knowing it in advance. Wait. It's going to be exciting, and we call people to faith, all the inhabitants of this nation and the world, at the same time, and to love one another in the face of our faith, and to let God guide us and let us walk in our faith. My faith rests in a living God who sent his Son whose Spirit is here with us, and my faith rests solely on this.
The faith of others evolves in different ways. I can change, they can change, but let's unite with others in faith and let us love one another in the name of God. Sean, this is Sean the Baptist. meetthebaptiste.com It's still a bit under construction. with some dates and changes, but you can get an idea. All right ? Oh no! Bobby Ray Johnson.
Was Jesus quoting David on the cross who said “My God, my God, why have you abandoned? » Yeah, he was quoting a psalm that they say was written by David. The interesting thing about the Old Testament Scriptures is that they had a practical application in their time and also predicted future events. Christ quoted David, who spoke of another era, and applied it to himself.
All right. Oh ! I'm looking here. I look. Someone said "I hated hyperpredatorism so much when I first heard it, but the more I hate it, the more I am convinced that it is true. Predatorism is the ultimate achievement. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. And again, I'll just be careful labeling it because if you say it, huuu people will think 10 different things about you when you say i'm a pd, and what's more it sounds like a pd and I'm not sure you want to be given this title.
And using accomplishment for its connotations. Not every accomplishment in what we teach has an individual connotation of complete presism. The book you first read, Christianity's Greatest Dilemma, Is Glenn Hill Right? Yeah. Where does he stand on these things in terms of prediction and achievement? That's a really good question.
Glenn Hill came to speak here and I drove him to his hotel afterwards and asked him some of his tougher questions. All that Glenn, old Glenn, this humble and good servant of Christ would say, it is “I hope so, John. " I hope so. You know, like, has hell been accomplished? Has Satan been in the times of fire? Are we doing our own harm now? All these things, all he could say was “I hope so.
» And it is filled with love. This hopes for all things. And that's what we want, that we hope and believe and endure all things in the name of God. And Glenn was like that. Yeah. Uh, uh, uh, when Jesus walked the earth, was he recycling, reducing, reusing or was he like an environmentalist? I can say that all we can do is look at some examples in scripture, like when he multiplied the loaves and fishes.
He took something and he developed it, and then after everyone had eaten and was full. he developed it, and then after everyone had eaten and been satisfied. He told his disciples to go and gather what was left, twelve baskets full, so that nothing is lost. That sounds like someone who cared about the world.
Now, I'm not saying you need to become an environmentalist and think we can control everything. And look, we're not talking here. We talk about what I think Christians should be known for caring about the world as much as anyone else, within reason, because this world has been given to us and we should be respectful to God.
For that. But that doesn't mean you worship animals or do stuff that goes so far into the extremes of animal rights and all that. I love a good hamburger. Uh. Bobby R. It's funny because I heard a song in church with lyrics about how he conquered death. I believe she was talking about the resurrection. Yeah.
And when it is said that he has conquered death, they should have understood that he also conquered spiritual death. Why are you laughing ? Oh, you're not laughing. What ? There is a lag on these cameras. Sorry. Yeah. Um, I mean, you know, uh, when you... Oh, what Christmas song is that? Is this... I heard the bells on Christmas Day.
Or Oh, come all faithful. The lyrics of this song are about accomplishment. They speak of complete fulfillment. And yet, no one really listens to him. Yeah. I can't really get frustrated because they say it's taken care of and thank God and everything's fine and... You clearly know they don't mean that. It's true.
They don't think that. Yeah. Death and hell were... thrown into the lake of fire. He was going to throw hell into hell. Was he going to throw hell into hell? Most churches use the fire of the pond as a synonym for the fire of hell. Yeah, yes, it's good. We are grilling rib eye steaks today. All right. And you want to get less involved in it? No, because you said you liked steaks.
Me, yes. Me, yes. I'm just trying to say that I don't think everything is a goal. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Uh. In the meantime, can I come back to my question? Yes. About... Yes. Uh. The sinful nature. I guess the sinful nature is real. Would you say she is... Absolutely real? All right. And we resist it.
And we resist it. Even unbelievers resist it. And so this whole review is “How to respond to the criticism? » God created the economy and he saved us from the thing he created, God created the economy, and he saved us from the thing he created, the sinful nature. You know, I would say that God created the economy of free will, and he saved us from the fallout of our predecessors, Adam and Eve.
But God does not save us of our own will. He gave us free will. We have free will. Again. So he took care of the sins that easily assail us, but he has not taken away the sin of unfaithfulness. The choice not to believe and not to love, we are responsible for these sins. All right ? So someone who wants there to be good things in this world, without a sinful nature, asks God to leave us no choice.
Is that the implication? As if the only way to achieve this? If we were speaking reasonably and logically it would be true, because there is no chance in this world that we, as human beings, agents of free will, let's have a world without sin and that takes away our ability to choose because we are always in the flesh we are selfish we want what we want you can't stop us you have sexual desires you have thoughts you can't help it in your flesh then what do you say? Because we think it's almost worth saying that sin is no longer relevant to talk about.
Because you know, it focuses on... Causes of sin is what causes harm. Christ took care of it. We don't focus on that anymore. I firmly believe in it. But there is also the other side, eh, there is another side where people say that I I'm a good person because of that. And it's also anathema, it's less to say also forbidden than to say that I am just a humble sinner who can do nothing but sin.
And so sin must be recognized in a certain way. It is recognized in our individual choices to voluntarily love darkness more than light. voluntarily loving darkness more than light. Willingly refusing to believe amidst all the signs and indicators God has given us as it says in the Bible, and willfully choosing not to love as he said.
This sinful nature is always held accountable, to which God will see his children. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Uh. Someone just texted me, I want to encourage you to keep going. Some of us truly receive the enlightenment and love you share. Not everyone is a troll or a bigot. There is a remnant who sees what you indicate.
Thank you, MacRenis, for your ministry. Whoever said that, thank you for that. Considering. And we're just trying to do what we think the Scriptures tell us to do in the context of the audience, the time, and the victory that Christ won. And by the way, if you're wondering about this victory, look at the teaching from this Sunday, about three hours ago, called Sunday School.
We're going to go through a series of "ifs." And the first is “if Christ has paid for the sin of the world” and the second is “if Satan has been defeated”. And we teach the answer to both of those things and going forward we're going to talk about "n." If these things are true, then consider this. Yes, it was really good.
The Sunday series is a really good way to kind of hear the synopsis by topic where you cover all the scriptures. But, uh, thank you for this comment uh... Because it's really like a leftover... It's the... correct word to use. Like on a ladder. That's how small it is, And the bigots and trolls are so much bigger.
So I appreciate this comment. Um, has sin ever changed before the resurrection? Are all sins the same? Well, the before after resurrection is something that needs to be addressed. Are all sins the same? Well, not all sins are the same in their ability to cause harm. Some sins are much more harmful than others, in their actions, their behaviors, their attitudes, and they do more damage than others.
And so in this world, Mahilea, the sins that we commit, in quotes, are always justly treated by the law and by the rights of others. are always justly treated by the law and by the rights of others. But the problem is that in the eyes of God, for human beings, sin is the same, because everything lacks its mark of perfection.
So if you have an ability command, but you lack a commandment, you can live your whole life and do everything perfectly and still miss one. You are a sinner in God's eyes because you have failed to keep His law perfectly. So this is a difficult question in terms of before and after the resurrection. Know that before the resurrection of Christ who died for the sin of the world, sin was of one type.
He still existed in the resurrection where we all received the power of the Spirit of Christ to walk. Now sin has moved from resurrection to resurrection. Moving from resurrection to resurrection. To be in the law and in the flesh, to obey, to command, all that, and it touches our hearts, and the sins of the heart are what the resurrected Christ leads us to overcome.
I know that's a lot, but that's my answer to this question. All right. Uh... Let's continue. I watched Sunday School live. THANKS. Cool. Taught on Thorne imagery. I also noticed this imagery in Jonah. Weeds wrapped around my head. Oh ! How Jonah wanted to be raised to be thrown away. I believe in victory. Because I still have some obstacles to overcome for the return of grace in 70 AD.
THANKS. Have a good week. Keep looking, oh brother, sister, keep looking. THANKS. Uh. Keep talking. Sorry if you sister, keep looking. THANKS. Um, keep talking. Sorry if you hear a baby in the background. Okay, I'm running out of things. Maybe we should finish sooner. Can we finish early? I'm trying to think.
I think I just got a text or something. Someone says something about... Yeah, there's a lot of texting and emails throughout. The week. Yeah, I just want to encourage you. We will come in your neighborhood one day soon. Little less be next year. And ONA, we try to reach out to people with more reason, more love for everyone, in the name of our king Jesus Lord and Christ, who paid for the sin of the world.
I want to close with one little thing that really concerns me. And of the year. If you'll excuse me for this minute of rambling, but I want you consider the human race. The human race, as you consider plants. We have humans who are plants that produce food. All kinds of plants that produce food and feed other people.
And they are truly respected and loved. And we're grateful that we created these plants to help us, aren't we? And then there are people who produce and help other people. It's wonderful and we love them, don't we? And then there are plants that are really there just for their beauty. We call them flowers.
And most plants have them, and there are even plants that are just flowers. That's all they are, because it's just to bring beauty. And we have people like that who have beauty. And they bring beauty to this world. This is the way God sees the world, isn't it? So see people, some as flowers, and then all plants have flowers, or most of them, and some people as plants that produce food. Then we have another group, and I want you to think about this.
We calls weeds. It's all weeds here. You will notice that there are flowers ar, dandelions. There are other small white flowers. There are purple flowers there, less in it. They are weeds. And what we do when we look weeds is what we say that we must kill them. We have to remove them. They are not beautiful. And either they take up too much space or they try to overtake us in our way of life.
And there are human beings who are weeds. And weeds are a little more selfish. Generally, they are thorny. Usually, they try to protect themselves. They can be artists. They can be different people who feel mistreated and are victims of violence, slandered and hated. They are outcasts. They have things about them that flowers and plants don't like.
And what's more, if we let weeds take over, they kill everything else. It's selfish. But that doesn't mean say that there are no weeds in this world. Just because we like to have our gardens with only pretty tulips or plants that produce fruit to eat doesn't mean weeds have medicinal value. They retain groundwater. They prevent mudslides. They have a place.
We are trying to get to a point where Christians realize that even weeds are worth loving. Yes, they should be governed somehow, and they can't take over the entire community selfishly. We suggest that Christ came to save the weed nation of Israel, the lost sheep of the house of Israel, not those that the religious leaders lost, not those that were acceptable, the weeds of Israel, the lost sheep of the house of Israel, not those that the religious leaders lost, not those that were acceptable, the weeds.
And that's kind of my heart, but that doesn't mean I'm just focused on weeds. We see the value in flowers. We see that it is important. The value of other plants that produce food. And we see the need of order and love but this must pass through acceptance and love and I hope this made sense to you someone said that some plants are poisonous they are poisonous but why are they on earth and what are they for should we learn a lesson from them we want to kill and eradicate everything that is different because it causes problems.
And I'm just trying to say that when it comes to people, yeah, they're not weeds. They are people. And God has a purpose in creating them the way they are. The Christian way is to love them and guide them. All right. Alright. Alright. It's a good thing to end on, I think. I like it. Thank you all for listening to us. Keep looking for it. Love one another in faith. I love you all. I love you. Bye.