April 5th Yeshuan Fireside

LIVE CALL IN: April 5th Yeshuan Fireside with Shawn McCraney and Delaney McCraney Norris

Transcripts:

you Very good. Good morning. Hi. How are you ? GOOD. We're remote today, as you can see. We are still at a distance. We are still at a distance. Um, thank you to everyone who follows us at Easter for that. I imagine it will be a slow or maybe crazy show. Who knows? We'll see. Maybe all people will be called it.

Yeah, maybe. Can't you hear me? There is a big delay. All right. Uh. That's okay. Uh. It's a problem. Well, you handle it and I'll play along. But I have to wait for everyone to catch up. Maybe we'll just do a truncated show. We stop at 2:30 p.m. if no one is there. All right. Point. Yeah, the sound isn't great. So, uh, yours is saturated, so we'll see how it goes.

I'm sorry, everyone. Um, okay. Do you have anything to announce, Sean, before I move on to this week's questions? No. But if you're following us, you might want to watch today's Sunday School teaching as we summarize our Bible journey. We justify it and what we are going to do as a ministry. You can participate in this announcement. It's clearer, and Delaney and I are working behind the scenes to get it out there and out there.

All right. Awesome. Okay, great. the founders of Yechouan with our family, which is an educational ministry aimed at more love and based on a perspective of accomplishment. You can go to Yechouan Face to find out more. But them, Sean the Baptist will be the next thing you and I will do at the end of this year, aiming to start in Utah.

Talk a little about it more, because we have officially announced it in your teaching today. What we're going to do is it's time for us to put our boots on the ground, so to speak. And we think that when we look at the world and the chaos of religion, the chaos of young people, no one knows how to believe, the Catholic church is growing, all that.

doesn't know how to believe, the Catholic Church is growing, all that. We want to physically visit young people in areas along the Wasatch Front. That's how I say it. And we're going to market to specific groups. We are going to go into the desert and we invite them to meet Sean the Baptist, my character. I come in the spirit of John the Baptist who came in the spirit of John the Baptist who came in the spirit of Elijah. And that is a biblical justification. And we will preach faith and love. And we are going to do baptisms

of water for people who want to be baptized into the faith without parameters, without anything else. Faith and love. And we leave that space between them and God because we all see through a mirror differently. It's a different model, but it's what we intend to do because we believe that Christ has won the victory and is reaching out to the whole world through his spirit.

It's great. I will display the website on the screen. I will display the website on the screen. You can start sharing it or searching for it. It's meetandthebaptiste.com We're developing it. It's just a very simple home page, but you will see that we are going to go to the field, as he says, and be baptized starting in Utah.

and get baptized starting in Utah. It will begin in northern Utah in October and every Saturday, we will go to different places in Utah and call the children and anyone who wants to meet him in the desert. Yes ! And we invite you to come and talk to people, if you want to share God's love and join us. And they, we hope to take this content, from the nose, record it, film it, bring it back internally in celebration, after we've done the Utah viewing lot, and start broadcasting messages from Sean the Baptist to the state.

to the youngest. Awesome ! October 26. So you can see these details on the screen. Uh! Danny Larson, Sean the Baptist serving honey locust bagels in the desert. And there you have it! Period, that will be Danny's job. Yes, it will. We hope that all those who listen to us here, it's primarily aimed at students, but we obviously have a lot of people in Utah who know Sean and have known you over the years at different times.

We therefore invite everyone to come. It's not just for students and I hope Danny will be there. I hope that everyone listening to us here, if you are from Utah we hope you will come so we can meet you in person and start doing more things in person yeah and answer your questions because we think that you should not come and believe and follow us and ask yourself the questions we will give you the answers yeah why are you I'm going to ask you about this who could be the devil's advocate? Why is it not blasphemous to baptize in the name of faith and love rather than in the name of God or in the name of Christ or in the name of the Trinity?

Every baptism throughout biblical history had a specific mission. The baptism of John was not the baptism of Christ. The baptism of the Jews, the mica that they demanded of their people was not that of John nor that of Jesus. The nation of Israel, Paul says, was baptized on dry land at the divide of the Red Sea.

Baptism is attributed to a specific identification. So we, yeah, that's why we get a call. Yeah, let's take it. Just a moment, let's hope it works. Hey, you're on the air. How are you ? He is resurrected. He is resurrected. How are you ? He is resurrected. He is resurrected. Sean arrives. Um, you might be a little late in hearing from Sean.

So, take some time after asking your question, if you don't mind. All right. Um, yes. Good morning. Um, I was wondering how much importance you or Sean place on the near-death experiences that people report online and elsewhere. Do you want me to take care of it, Del? Yeah. What is the name of our interlocutor? What is your name, caller? John.

John. John. John. Awesome. So, they, to summarize, I studied these two a lot and they, you know. But I think I have an answer that a lot of people don't really like. I think God gives us a transitional state as we move from one realm to another. to transient as we move from one realm to another. And because I've looked at what psychotropic drugs create in people, especially high doses of MDMA, molly, peyotol or mushroom, and that the same receptors are affected, creating the same descriptions shared by people who

have NDAs, NDEs. those shared by people who have NDAs, NDEs. And that is because they become one with the universe. They dissolve into themselves. They enter a kingdom which is exquisitely incomprehensible. And I believe that our bodies, when we die, also emit this same type of drug into our brains, and we experience it And I think that's a comfort to people in their death while they're in transition But I don't think anyone has ever entered the kingdom of God and faced all of this and come back for the simple reason that in Eastern India I rarely hear anything described doctrinally.

All I hear are experiences of Muslims, Christians, atheists and of everything else that shares a bit of the same thing. So that's my point of view. Oh, I see. Um, yeah, that's something that really caught my attention and I don't really know what to think about it But yeah Eh Well, look at it, John, there's nothing wrong with testing it, checking it out and seeing, you know And maybe you'll come to believe that it's real and maybe I need to grow up and change I'm not saying I could, that's just my current view

Okay Point, okay, well, thank you very much everyone and have a happy Easter. THANKS. Thanks, John. Happy Easter to you. THANKS. Bye. Bye. I appreciate the patience of John and future callers on this audio. It’s still a work in progress and being remote is another tricky challenge. So, E, were you defending or explaining Na, E, baptizing in faith and love and how that's not blasphemous? Yeah, it's not blasphemous in the context of everything God has done.

He did everything. The baptism in the name of Christ that the apostles did was for the bride. And I'm not saying that people who know Christ shouldn't be baptized in his name today. But I'm saying that in a broader sense, we could just reach out to people who have faith in God. And because we believe that the Spirit of Christ is in all men are in the process of learning who this God is and why.

And that love into which they are baptized is a means of helping them enter it. So it has nothing to do with usurping anything that God and Christ have already done. It’s about supporting it in a contextual and accomplished way. I have a question. What do you do with someone? I put questions until we have more questions from the audience.

So, everyone, text us, call us, chat us what you think, but I will keep asking. Them. To me, it is assumed that someone may not fully know Christ. We think it's Christ in them, but what if they've spent their whole life learning everything you know, hearing everything, but they still don't think it's Christ? They thought it was something else, but they lived by faith and love. You know, he would never have gone that way.

I think the reasons they chose this path could have to do with a number of things, like their upbringing, their nature, their mental capacity, their exposure to ugly Christians, to endless prejudice. So yes. Yes. SO. So yes. Yes, so. And then I also wondered if there was some kind of deterministic force that was happening in the kind of thing where every knee would bow and every tongue would confess about God, you know? Well, I think one could see this as deterministic, but I can also see it being just a statement of fact.

And even though every tongue confesses and the knees bow, that does not mean he believes. He might say, I think he's the Lord, but I don't care. I don't think it's something universal. I think it's just a statement of what's going to happen in front of him. Yeah, like he sees that it exists and he has to say that it exists.

As if we couldn't no longer deny it. I see, it's true, it's logical. Well, I think it's great. I think he There's a real need to recalibrate Christianity in this world to, you know, take non-essential things off the table and really start to come together. This is the goal, unity. Sean the Baptist is for unity. Yeah. So, there you go.

A question. I've heard you say before, but how did you, a man raised in the Mormon church, manage to get by? What has helped you personally? THANKS. Sin. Sin drove me out of the Mormon church. I was a sinner before I went on my mission. I was a sinner when I left a mission. And I struggled with my own flesh. And I thought there was nothing I could do to fix myself.

own flesh. And I thought there was nothing I could do to fix myself. So, I was screwed. I just, you know, and followed being fucked up in my mind with my life because Mormonism taught me that you were screwed. And them, but this sin led me to have a humble heart and to see myself as I really was before God and men.

And that made me led to hearing a message in 97 that changed me. And so when people ask me what it was, I say it was my sinful nature. What do you tell people? Who don't like, who criticize Christianity because, you know, that. You're doing something psychologically to think that everyone is just decrepit, horrible and deserves anger like that? And so the answer to that is we are good.

There is good in us. People are made good. Do you know what you say to these arguments? I say there is no good. No, not a single one. And I say if people can't deal with the fact that as a created being who defecates and looks at others lustfully and gets angry and impatient, if they think they don't have sin, then they are deluding themselves.

So what about this? Let them say, what if these things were not sinful? This is how we are made. They will be used. There can be good sides to this, you know. Oh, I can agree with that. I'm not saying we should focus on the sinful nature, and I'm not saying we can't use it. I'm just saying that if you want to learn how to approach this nature and be able to deal with it in a way that actually works, consider what we have to say.

I don't think that if someone has a blatant sin nature, God is waiting to strike them with a blow. I think he loves him and wants him to choose well for his own good. Yeah. So why is it so twisted that people have this conception of gender? Do you know that I am a sinner? Who created me like this? God made me like this, but I'm going to be punished for it.

You know, they're frustrated with the economics of gender. We are sinners, but He made us that way. But... They have a very good argument. If it was just that and there was no solution, I would agree with them. This is what bad religion is. I understand that. But the answer is, but he has it repaired. Yeah,

yeah, that's it. The thing. Yeah. The problem is what Christianity has done with it, saying it's not fixed. It's true. It has to be done. It has to be done. And that’s what Christianity did. Yeah. And ? So, it seems the question is, why did you do it that way in the first place? It wouldn't exist. Without free will. Yeah. Yes. God gives human beings free will, sin and failure will be the consequences. Yeah, yes. punishment. But he gave us what was needed so that we could all overcome these things, put them in the past, and turn to him and see if he will strengthen us.

Some people still don't want that, but that's really the gospel message. Do you think he is there? Something to think about the fact that he created everything in a human being to fall with free will? Do you see what I mean? As if it was in us to want evil. Yeah.

Um, well, because in the garden he created Adam and Eve and he said that it was good and because they were sinless. I have to start there. But in front of them, he gave them free will, they had the capacity before sinning to do evil. If God had created us without the capacity to sin, that remains a form of determinism. Yeah, so for him to give us his abilities means he gives us free will to choose and decide.

So it was really that God didn't know for sure that Adam and Eve were actually going to be the way he really hoped they would be. It's a debate. I have a position on this that goes against what standard philosophy says. And I said they knew. They but I also made the argument that they didn't know. that he knew.

They but I also made the argument that they didn't know. I don't know which one is more philosophically relevant, because if he knew and did it, then he predetermined everyone to fail. And so it becomes a very philosophical question whether God knew what men would do with his ability to choose. God knew what men would do with his ability to choose.

Well, what we do know is that we do things that don't work. Sin in this world does not work. We don't feel good when this happens. People can argue philosophically that it is not a sin, but I think there is a conscience that says You know, killing someone is probably wrong or something. And... Um and then we can also argue that it's a matter of debate, how it started, but we know how it ended, which is he took care of it. It's true.

What more can you do? So there you have it. Our message as Yeshian. You know, whatever contributed to this happening, we can't handle it perfectly, but we know that at least for our faith he has fixed everything except your decisions about how you want to live. Yeah.

At least you can't criticize the fact that he didn't fix everything. As you might criticize the way everything was designed, but at least he took care of the conception and no longer punishes you for it. And it's... True. Yeah. It's interesting. I look, and when people say things like in the field... you're talking about the year I watch a lot of crime shows and I watch a lot stuff about murderers and people making choices and it's fascinating because even the people who weren't raised with god or religion or anything they feel bad They know they did wrong and I don't think we can get around that. The mere idea that there is harm makes you wonder what you are doing with the harm you are doing.

It's true. Yeah, yeah. Um, well, I'm still waiting for questions from you. Everyone says happy Easter. Sean, are you an Easter fan? Only when it comes to candy. Look, I know. I know, I know. And I love the resurrection and I understand all that, but at the end of the day, it's a pagan holiday. We have hijacked the estros, the worship of spring.

And if you want to be associated with that and justify it as the resurrection of Christ, go for it. But the resurrection of Christ in my heart is spiritual. It's something I look forward to every day of the week with pastel dresses and dyeing eggs. It's for children. When you are no longer a child, talk to us.

Yeah, and Jeff says, happy Easter. Thank you for at least answering this question well. Yeah, at least he didn't say Easter. No, but thanks to everyone else. I know it's nice for families and you know it's... The best ham. Yeah. And yeah. It's the same as everything else. We can't do everything throw away, you know. No. And I don't like it. I love Halloween.

I love Christmas for the food, fun, culture and all that. Alright. But I don’t read anything into my relationship with Christ. Yeah. That's the thing. And Passover? Once again, there. Passover is something that deals with the nation of Israel and the pastoral lamb and that whole connection. A great symbolism redone. I passed Passover. They, this initial question from Josh Paul, they seem to recognize our guilt or the first part of the gospel.

Yeah, yeah, like when Christ says, “blessed are the poor in spirit and blessed are those who mourn.” This seems to be a direct nod to how we feel about our behaviors before a living God if there ever was one. Yeah. Humility is fundamental in Christianity. I think this has been misinterpreted to the point that the critics of Christianity are right, that people are falsely humble and have a way of self-flailing, which is almost pride.

It's like this backslidden thing where they care so much about their sin and show it or something like I'm saved by grace. It’s as if they do it in an almost prideful way. Yeah. But it seems that humility is at the heart of it all. Yeah, true humility. Um, I don't remember the exact book and verse, but the Bible says, men made wine.

The women needed pasta for the Queen of Heaven. I think this may be a reference to Easter. Oh, no, uh, wait. The women in the sky needed pasta. It's in the Old Testament, I'm pretty sure. Of the year I lost the contact with you. Your voice is now out of sync. Uh. Oh, oh, there you go. Sorry them guy, this is just the worst. I'm really bad at this. Okay, Easter was celebrated before it even began, although its purpose was to remember and be grateful for the freedom received in the story of the Exodus. This still remains relevant.

That's right, well, I agree with that. Yes, I like things that are always current. Yes. Yeah. I mean, everything in the Old Testament is still relevant today. But not in a spiritual sense. In a spiritual sense. Yeah, it's... Like it's an interesting thing. The accumulation of events that become more topical over time is a strange part of all these different religions.

Yeah. They change at different times yeah that's enough funny little what would you say about this line of thinking as you know we are talking about Muslims who are accepted Buddhists who are accepted all these people they all fall within lines of different proximity compared to what we are talking about very quickly I love you my brother I don't understand your content as much lately I might have to start again but i always loved the death of charlie kirk it fried my brain it was pretty hard to die yeah it was crazy it was unhappy, it was sick,

it almost shocked the nation. It almost shocked the nation like Kennedy. Not as big, but it's the same kind of thing. Who said that? This is the first round of boxing 7649. And then he said, uh, I've been a fan of yours from the UK for years, since the days of the Melas debate. » It was... Funny, yeah, it's good to hear from you, bro.

Yeah. Um, liberal democrats try to solve the guilt problem by denying the existence of sin, by claiming that morality is a social contract. They have a false solution to sin and guilt. Do you agree? I think I wouldn't necessarily put liberals in that category, but I would say that it's sort of the condition of most men and women.

Yeah, men and women. Both “men and women” have this problem. To pretend that sin is no problem. To pretend that sin is no problem. But I like, personally, I think liberals and conservatives each mask the problem of sin or guilt in different ways. I agree with that in general, but I don't think it's specific to each camp, there are a few.

Yeah. general but I don't think it's specific to each camp there's a bit yeah no that's for sure it's just based on that I see where your question is josh and them yeah it seems like they do fall the guilt elsewhere they all move the guilt into different areas of the human being. Isn't it? It seems that the Liberals do this in a way that seems opposed to the traditional Christian way.

So them. I can't deny it. It's more like Nebelouic. I try not to get involved in this, but I think she has a better handle on the situation. It's so obvious it's hard not to think about it, but I'm not very aware. I don't think you're wrong, Josh Paul. And them, but I think there's also more than that. You know, each side has its problems. Personally, it's this but I think there's also more than that. You know, each side has its problems.

Personally, that's what I think. Them, I'm not a big fan of Christmas. Too materialistic. Yeah, I hate him to tell you the truth. I think it's for kids and I think the game you're getting sucked into is insane. And I wish people would object to it, but they don't. Well ? I'm sorry. I hate being that guy, but...

Yeah. I mean Easter is kind of similar at this point. We are on the subject. I mean birthdays too. We know of two birthdays in Scripture. One is that of Jesus. All right ? Alright. We can celebrate it. And the other is that of Herod. And for his birthday, he asked for the head of John the Baptist on a platter.

Birthdays are a form of self-indulgence. They only concern me, me, me. It's my birthday and I will cry if I want. And this is the antithesis of what God expects of his children. You could say, well, birthdays are fun. Go ahead, do them, do whatever you want. I'm just telling you what I think, and I think it's indulgent. It's good for children.

We rejoice at the birth of children. But when you start to turn 20 or 30, come on. Jérémy 10, I believe, is talking about Christmas. And in the Apocalypse, it is about Nicholas. Wait, we have a call here. Let's do this real quick. Hello, hello, you're on the air. Um, Sean is a little late in his audio, so give him a minute to answer after your question, but tell us your name.

Trevor. Hello, Trevor. What's new ? How is the echo? I don't really know. I'm in my van. I don't know if I should turn the sound down or how it works, but if it sounds good. Hi, I loved seeing you and Sean on your show. I remember when Sean was very much becoming a total predator and reconciler and I loved his old shows.

I was watching them back when it had the old format, I think, and then I lost you a little, I believe, when you switched to your web format. I didn't really know what happened. and then recently I saw you appear. I love seeing you do your library studies, And then, there's something I emailed to the channel a long time ago. The question is, them, for Sean, I know it's always one of the hot topics, but on the Trinity, I know he doesn't really believe in it.

But there's a lot of different views, but my point and I want to get his take is that God is, we are, we are made in the image of God, we are relational. and like God, we are relational. Now, God being, you know, above, beyond that, before all these other creations, would be a relational being. And so that's where a good argument would be for me, myself, others, the Bible, the verses, etc.

But my argument for God having a triune form and being a relational being is that before that he created anything. So the trinity would support that. I was wondering where Shun was today on the trinitarian concept. I think, Trevor, that what you're saying has merit, and I think it's not easy to answer. I don't think I can simply dismiss this as part of the Trinity model. But again, I see relational aspects in God's constitution.

To be honest with you, in the construction of the atom, and that the masculine and the feminine, the neutron and the proton that make up the nucleus are, the image of the one God being plural, and then the electron orbiting outside of it. And it’s all relational. It's the whole atom.

And some part is different from what is in the nucleus, the mind, the electron. But I also see God creating atoms as we see them. I see God as very different from credulous Trinitarianism which posits that He is three distinct, co-eternal, equal persons. I don't have a problem with three. I have no problem with the relationship. I have a problem with the way they created it.

How is the definition of people co-equal and co-created? Yeah. And I, and I, so there is. I lead a middle school Bible study with a group of middle school students. Awesome. And I run it with a university, not a Unitarian university, which is Pentecostal. So I think it's one of those things that he...

You know, unlike many of our friends who try to think that if you have a wrong belief, you are a heretic. I really loved it, bro. I really loved the days when Don Preston was debating your local buddy who was after you. I... still often call myself a Christian anarchist because of all your teaching the old way. And I love seeing you again.

I love seeing you and your girl, when you do your little study biblical. So, I love, buddy, and I pray, and I thought I'd stop by and say hello and get news from the Trinity. We love you and thank you for sharing and you know, maybe we have some areas we can improve on, Trevor. We are ready. I love it, I love it, I'm on the right track with you, man.

I think you've found the other one, the old classic, the authorized church. I'm like you, buddy. I love all these different beliefs and it's in your heart whether you love Jesus or not and I believe He will reconcile all things. So keep it up guys. I love you. THANKS. God bless you. Have a great day. It's really fun doing this show and watching you all year.

Oh ! I can speak even better when we look at each other like that. We should do it remotely every time. Yeah, it was a really nice throwback. It was cool, yeah. Um, it's funny. I like, I think people haven't even seen stuff in a long time and they're coming. So thank you Trevor for calling. Yeah, nice. I've also heard this about justifications for doing church.

As if we were relational beings. If it's about love, there has to be another person. Like you're where and you know we have our answers to that. But maybe you can describe it here as if we were relational. It is always about relationship. But... Yes, I mean you can't love if there isn't another person to love, and the rationale that you should gather with people who share the same ideas to love one another. They, you know, it seems like an artifice. I think the things Christians should do, apart from God, are

learn to love people outside the church and learn to get along with different people. Anyone can get along with any scout, can get along with other scouts it's so strange yeah you know it's huge let's see people who follow Christ you know let's see the surfers get along with the football players and let's see some real growth in people yeah I guess it could I'll look it up some of his comments but it seems like they're taking things like, where two or three are gathered together, like it's like this thing where you want to invoke Christ, but it's not two or three believers gathered together, it's two or three people gathered together.

Like it's not, you know, it's just misapplied all the time. I wonder about this comment about the Trinity, that God existed and created the world because it is relational you see yeah and the scriptures say that he created us to be in relationship well yeah so maybe it's like why create a world if you're in a relationship with your identity you see yeah so that's A good answer to the relationship argument because it comes up a lot with people like Trevor.

Yeah, that's a big deal. It's... Weird because I never thought that was a good argument. Not to denigrate Trevor, but that seems to me to be the reason for creation. If he is relational, that's why he created the world, not why he is a trinity.

And again, with no disrespect to Trevor, this is a very humane way to think what he says. Well, God has to be in relationship to be, and I've heard it many times, but what you say makes more sense to me. God does not need to be in relationship with any other being. It's him, you see? He. Yeah. The Christian church has done this a lot, there are explanations and very weird stuff like, you know, how we are like this, well God is like that too, and so you say to yourself. Why is it God? Because the idea.

Even limits it and puts it in a box. Yeah. Yes. As if he were like us. I don't think I want a God who is like us. Yeah. We are more like him. He's not like us. Yeah. It's a good conversation though. Yeah. THANKS. I love these calls. Wait. There are plenty of them here. So they, from the first round of boxing, there are a few points here.

Is believing in saints heresy? Don't pray to them like the Catholics, but maybe just believe in them. And then he also said, I hope you're a man. He said, sorry to keep being nostalgic, but what are your favorite old calls? I miss John O'Hallen, the help guy who said, "You look like you're getting worse.

" » “You’re really getting worse, Sean. Go on. » Yeah, we had a lot of them. I like the one where the guy called and said “San, are you coming?” » “Are you doing your job?” » And I said, “No. » “Oh, come on, Sean. Come on, you come, you do your job, you do your duty. No, I don't. Oh, you know, and that's when I broke down. He really thought he had me, you know.

Yeah. All right. As a saint, is recognizing them heretical? It's up to you, man. Look, it's so subjective. We are all in transition. Some of us join the saints. We learn whether it works or not. We learn why. And those who seek will discover the value of it or not. I see a very good reason why people would say we can't honor the saints. It's paganism. And everything that is against Catholics and Orthodox. Ultimately, faith is subjective.

If this works for you, God will look at your heart. Your heart. And if you worship the saints because you have a heart for God and you think he uses them to help you, I don't think he's going to hit you with a bunch of blows. He's looking at the heart, guys. Um, okay. Um, action diffuses anxiety. I forgot to mention the return of your old stomping grounds, Carlsbad, California.

It's beautiful here. We love this place. Yeah. I wish I was there right now. Me, at least. Um, okay. Josh Paul, in that previous comment, for example, like earlier, that LGBT stuff is a sin, but liberals will say it's not. They will blame LGBT people on people like me who say calling me a pedophile or a hater is a sin.

I understand what you are saying, personally, and I do not disagree. It's not that these things aren't sin. It's not that he's not trying to make them non-sinful, but to me, I don't think he's talking about sin. He talks about acceptance. worldly. This sin is not even on their radar.

They, maybe they try to do it accept. There is, but I guess what I meant is that all camps do that. It seems like conservatives are trying to portray things as sins, which is false. My point is that talking about sin is no longer relevant. First of all, and this is particularly irrelevant in politics. As if there should be no discussion of sin at all.

So you are right. If someone tells you that you're a sinner because you hate a gay person or you call them a sinner like that, that's wrong. Sin shouldn't even be involved. Yeah. What do you say, dad? Sorry, I intervened. No, I loved it. And I look at the essentials, everything we do. Is a penny. Yeah. It's just the human way, it's just the human way.

So when a Republican, let's say very conservative, says LGBTQ is a sin. But if we could look, we could see that they have sinned too. What is this ? Maybe it's pride, maybe it's judgment, perhaps anger, impatience. They are just as sinners, but they think that they are not because they do not use their sexual organs to do things weird. But the fact is that our nature before God is sinful.

He has taken care of everything except what we refuse to accept about Him in faith, and that will come in time. So I think what Delaney said, it just eliminates sin, especially when it comes to politics. We are all sinners. So it's worth talking to a liberal about whether they call something sinful or not.

It's like it doesn't matter. Stop using the word fishing. It's not even like we should, he shouldn't say that. Neither. Yeah. And we don't disagree with the fact that being gay or whatever is probably not what was originally intended and so people call it a sin like... Eh! Well, that's the important thing. Oh, go ahead, sorry, nose.

No, it's just that I'm, you know, it wasn't originally intended, that I'm a control freak. As you know, those are also things that I don't know, it's just that what we prioritize is what matters to her, I think. And I don't think you're prioritizing anything. Look, like the lady just said, eria is the Greek word for sin and it means you miss the mark, you miss the mark.

So anything that causes humans to miss the target of God is sin. So if someone says homosexuality is a sin, they are missing the point. How can you say that? This is not what God started in the garden. Homosexuals can they go to heaven? Of course they can. By and through the completed work of Christ. That's the argument. We are not talking about sin.

Yeah, yeah. All right. Let us know Josh Paul if this wasn't going to be laborious. Um, hello. God is the one who manifests himself as love, as wisdom, as truth. God is a trinity of the greatest principles of love, wisdom and truth. Oh, the force that drives life is love. It's interesting. It's interesting. And you know, I'm looking forward to the year and working on a book.

It is in the process of reviewed by several of our friends and we will publish it in the coming months. His name is “Towards a better Trinity”. And we hope that you who speak about it will take into consideration some of the facets presented there, because you might change your mind. Yeah, for example, on this point. I wonder where you get these three things in particular from.

I feel like God is almost more than he is. Not all three. I like, you know, it's not necessarily those three things that are unique to me. I have found recently that the clarity that we have been talking about is that, for me, the clarity is God. So perhaps it is more than love, wisdom and truth. I don't know, but it's an interesting way to talk about the Trinity.

It's like beings. And people, like you criticize dad. Um, okay. Point. When I want a being to relate to themselves, I'm usually on a website I shouldn't be on. Who wrote this? It's funny. It was Jeff. It was... A good idea. That was a good idea, brother. I think it's excellent and I'm sorry if I don't mean to offend you, but I find it funny.

Oh my God, that's funny. Um, and then Josh Paul on sin. Yes, except you. apart from the sin of crisis I agree yeah it's just really strange how things are so small and extreme at the moment that philosophy and faith are synonymous with politics when it is not that's not it at all, but culturally it is. So we need to create new categories in my opinion, like new dividing lines.

Yeah. Simple question. Is Jesus God, yes or no? It's... Very difficult as you say. Yeah. As you say. Was God with us in the man Jesus Christ? Yes. Was what was in Christ God? Yes. Was God incarnate? Yes. Was Jesus of Nazareth God? No. His flesh had to go through the trials of life to be deified. And it was at his resurrection that he was deified.

This man, this flesh, this human side was deified So when you say with Jesus, God, yes or no, it's problematic If you Yeah, do both with the word of God With the word of God God, yes. What's so different about this perspective that people basically can't is change. As there are things that have changed that change about God. Like the fact that God acted as if there was no law at one point As if God had made a law As things change with the way God acts, people cannot, for some reason, see that when it comes to Christ, at Through time, Christ's life and his flesh have changed

God is in me right now and I'm not God, like they can't. Point E. Why did Ellison say thank you? I love your answer, E. Well, that wasn't a trick question, fine. What he was. All right. Are you still friends with Matt Slick? These are incredible and insightful discussions. May I recommend that you try talking to Dr.

Michael Brown as well? It's just for selfish reasons, because I love you both. We are. I'm trying to start getting interviews for later this year. So it's an excellent... Suggestion. But are you friends with Matt Slick, Dad? I'm friends with Matt, but I don't think he wants anything to do with me. He is convinced that his way of doing things and his approach are the right ones.

I'm wrong, and he made it known on his show radio. And that's okay. He has the right to have this opinion. I love him like a brother. I think his opinions are wrong. But I will be in communion with him no matter what day of the week. I will sit with him and talk with him. I'll be with Jeff Durban. I'll be with James White. I'll be with Jason Wallace. I will share bread with him. I will call them my brother. It doesn't work both ways in this world.

And it is what we are trying to show. The Trinity really served to divide men rather than to unify them. And that's another reason why we don't really like it. Allow me to I believe, but it really annoys me. Yeah, I feel like he might say you're the cause of the division, and that's not true. Yeah. He would, and there are reasons why that would be true, of the year, and I agree with you.

But today we have come to the point where we can see the error of our methods of division and we try to bring people together in what we think be the best expression. And so we open our doors to everyone. Well, it's a bit like what you taught with God's arithmetic, how you have to have moments of ebb and flow with each other to divide, separate, add and multiply it all.

divide, separate, add and multiply all of this. So what these people don't do is consider that you have evolved, that you are different or that you have learned more and have more to say. They just categorized you and wrote you off, and that will never change for them. So that's how history is preserved yeah yeah yeah okay nimrod was called santa claus in asia he's themed christmas it was about santa claus in the asian minor apocalypse it talks about the nicolasian sect of nicolas nicolas or nicolas the hazard means destructive sorry to go back i just wanted to

any thoughts sorry adam I think I forgot a previous comment I didn't mean to not do that I think you're right I think all parties are a joke Sorry. They are all commercialized. I think Christians should unanimously say that we don't celebrate these holidays because the world celebrates them so much. I think this is the time for Christians to say that they are all yours. Take them.

Instead, they put Christ back into Christmas, like... Yeah, yeah, we want, we want to get back what we stole from paganism.” Um, okay, creativity, yeah, on descriptions of God, creativity, wisdom, intelligence, goodness, self-control, unity, harmony, endurance, humility, motivation, reliability, and more.

Um, these are qualities that come when God is present. I think so. E.Sean. What book of the Bible should I read or study next? My heart calls me to ask you, so you can't say it's up to me. E. I'll let you answer and step aside real quick while I grab my computer charger. What are you looking for? That's the question.

I mean, E, because the book you choose is going to be somehow fulfilling. Are you seeking to understand the divinity and life of Christ? You go to Jean. Are you looking to understand the law and the Jews? E. You go to Hebrew. You go to Romain. If you are looking to examine the general spirit of God in the world, read the psalms.

If you want to see the pattern of everything, go to Genesis. I don't really see the point in reading some of the more obscure books, but they add a lot. But they, you know, the apocalypse, if you really want to do a study for understand the end of times and master your eschatology, the study of the Apocalypse, you can get our book from them and we will send it to you for free.

It's not a advertising campaign for money. They, the Apocalypse on the Apocalypse, and there are 22 chapters which accompany him. If you want to study and really learn what Revelation is about, you can do it. So, it's up to you. And also read the version of the Bible you will read. If you only read the King James version, then that's the one you'll read.

So here are my answers. Of the year is still gone. I can't, I don't have my glasses, so I can't read the fine print. By the way, don't have my glasses, so I can't read the fine print. By the way, I have a real photo of Charles Taz Russell, the one who banned parties for witnesses of Jehovah, sitting at a Christmas party surrounded by tinsel and light bulbs.

I have the photo in my files. So, you know, everything Chuck Smith used to say, the evangelical Christians at Calvary Chapel hated and they made great videos about Halloween mischief, but Chuck Smith used to take his grandchildren trick-or-treating. It's just stuff in this life, you know. Calm down, calm down.

Of the year. It's new. I am left to my own devices. What do you want to talk about? All right. The traditional trinity plays sleight of hand. Shen also explained to Father, but for me it is only that it is not an insult to others. Sorry, I'm trying to read small and I apologize for this segment of the show.

It looks like we're going to leave in a hail of glory. We're falling apart, guys. We have one left, we have six, four minutes left. I studied with Jews for two years. It's serious, I love them, but it seems like they can't handle something. They, if you really look at what the Maseretic Jews did, they, those, open your eyes to what the Talmud and their Mishnah say.

The Talmud, which is their tradition, is a vile, vile book. I mean, they say things like a rabbi is allowed to sleep with a 4 year old. It's really, really unfortunate. Delaney, can you hear me? Yeah, sorry, it was blocked. Internet is cut. Yeah, everything is fine. Continue. Um, I'm sitting here listening to the show. My wife is in the background. It's hilarious. Oh, how ironic.

Uh, uh, have you read the captions? What do you think Matthew 27:52-53 means? Were the saints literally resurrected and seen in the city or was it in a spiritual or symbolic sense? No. I think if you look at the timeline, it's more accurate to say that Christ paid for the sin of the world. He was resurrected first. He is the first fruits of the grave.

cited first, he is the first fruits of the grave. But I absolutely believe that the people who had recently passed away, not the ancient prophets, but who were recently deceased, also walked when the graves were opened by the earthquake that fell. When the veil was also written and others saw them saying, wow, there is life after death.

I remember the old Finn over there who died last week and he was walking around. And so I think it was for them as a witness to help them realize the victorious work of Christ. It makes so much sense when it's just left for those people in that moment. Just functional and logical. Have you met this Jehovah’s Witness? I just thought of the word but I didn't know what I had in...

their Bible for two years. I seriously can't get there. I love them, but I can't stand it. Oh, the new world translation. Yeah. I don't blame you. Among the Talmun, 90% are nasty attacks out of context. Say Jeff. Jeff 90%, but that 10% is pretty lousy. Okay, we should wrap this up. Yes. No, we know that you did not say that Jews are Jehovah's Witnesses.

Um, uh, I guess for the people who are here, they, who do the main program, we do it. Every year. If you like us or the way we do things, think about it. It's on Yesu. Face. And the goal is for you to take this series of courses so that you don't agree with us, but so that we're all on the same page, and then you become a member of our think tank where you're more or less part of our board of directors.

We meet with you every quarter and we tell you what's going on in our ministry, we get your feedback, your thoughts, your prayers and everything. So they, and Jeff said no, it's not ugly we should talk someday read it in context don't trust hateful people we will my brother we will okay I don't want to hate anyone no one but I want to say what I think is the truth.

» “Sean, to conclude. » “Anyone else?” » “I'm just grateful that you listen to us on a wholesome day like this and continue to watch and grow. » “Share and open at least the things. Even with Jeff, he speaks, he defends a position that I have just attacked. Great. Let's talk about it. Let's see where all this is. I don't have a monopoly on the truth, nor on the year.

So let's find it together. But let's do it with openness, love, freedom and liberty so that everyone can question things. And we choose to grow in faith together. The faith that we have, I want to say that because we're really going to continue to push it. This is what we need today. More faith, more love.

Awesome. THANKS. Uh guys, thanks. Family vacation together with good food Yes Um okay, thanks everyone, we'll talk to you later Thanks, guys