February 8, 2026 Yeshuan Fireside
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Central Claim: God's covenants operate primarily as one-way promises based on God's unilateral action, not reciprocal human obedience. This directly counters LDS theology, which teaches two-way covenantal contracts where obedience controls heavenly power.
Biblical Basis: McCraney cites Genesis 9:16 (God's covenant with animals who cannot respond), Abraham's covenant where God alone walked between the sacrifice pieces while Abraham slept (Genesis 15), and contrasts this with the LDS proof-text Doctrine and Covenants 82:10 about conditional blessing.
Yeshuan Perspective: The distinction separates Christian grace-based faith from legalistic works-based covenants. While the Mosaic covenant with Israel operated conditionally (obedience → blessing), the covenant of grace through Christ functions unilaterally—God performed all necessary work; believers merely respond through faith acceptance. This emphasizes subjective faith over objective performance, aligning with Yeshuan theology that prioritizes direct relationship with God over institutional religious requirements.
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LIVE: February 8th Yeshuan Fireside with Shawn McCraney and Delaney McCraney Norris
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All right. I think we're live. Well, look at that. The genius worked for her magic in just a second. I'm guessing that you can hear us. You can see us. If you can't hear us or see us, then tell us in the chat.
But hey, this is the new format for the firesides yes you win firesides what are these sean these are just uh call-in shows we call them firesides because we want people to call in ask questions delaney's going to read from uh different things that are posted online we're doing the same thing we've always done except um delaney thought we you should see our faces so that we can be more interactive with you and apparently uh we're going to be able to bring up other people's faces somehow other people's chat comments chat comments right I'm learning so uh but she knows what she's doing so welcome um so you're either on YouTube or Instagram right now. This is just a test.
And we're going to read questions and take your calls as usual. If you are here for the first time, you can call or text 220-222-4686 with your questions. You can chat. We'll show you the chat from across the different platforms. And this is supposed to be a much more informal discussion, fireside discussion.
Is that right? Yeah. Just talk and any questions, comments, your position, what you think's wrong with us, right with us. It doesn't matter. We're here to just try to open up discussion with anybody and everybody who's willing. Yes. I encourage you all to go to yeshuans.faith. Make some updates to the website.
You can read about it. It's becoming more and more clear that this is a family ministry, family ministry, family education, family run educational ministry, where we're trying to break down religion in the name of a direct relationship with God. And that's clear to those who are have been with us for a long time. But amen.
And listen, Delaney, while you're looking at the screen, if i look like this does it look like i'm talking to you uh it does actually and we're sitting next to each other which is funny yeah so if i look this way it looks like you know is that because we switched on where the comments are i don't know because if i'm looking at you it looks correct yeah so i'm not sure why that's the case when you look at me look at me i'll go like this okay all right he's looking away from me right now in person so okay let's get to some of the questions
from this week um it's saying something went wrong in our youtube on Heart of the Matter, or on Yeshuans, the Yeshuans channel. So if you're coming from there, there could be a problem that we aren't seeing. New comments will appear here. I'm going to test that out shortly. But while we're doing that, Sean, let's answer some questions from the AI bot.
Okay. that sean yeah let's answer some questions from the ai bot okay what are the four dwellings of god that you mention eden tabernacle jesus and us is that right yeah okay genesis 8 21 says he will never destroy all living creatures seemingly by any means but 9 11 specifies by flood which is it but uh verse 9 11 that's what it said that's what the question says and then which verse it says he'll never says genesis 8 21 and then genesis 9 11 so before he destroys them by flood So before he destroys them by flood.
821 says he will never destroy all creatures. But 911 specifies by flood. Which one is it in general or by flood? When he says by flood, it means I'm not going to destroy in that way again okay yeah um that's why it's distinguished from destroying but genesis 821 seems more all-encompassing that he may use other other methods to destroy life is that true and the lord smell the sweet saving the lord said in his heart i will not again curse the ground anymore for imagination's sake, neither will I again smite anymore every living thing as I have done.
Well, that was after the flood. So he said, I'm not in 821. He said, I won't smite the earth. anymore with a flood. That's what this person's question is, is if it means by flood when he says it generally like that. I think it does mean by flood. You don't think? Specifically, not generally. So God will or might destroy all life in another way? I don't think so because in other places, he says that this earth will never end he'll never destroy it it's eternal so i think that was specific to the flood however with the nation of israel he did destroy them by
fire see the first was water then fire the uh uh the destruction of jerusalem yeah yeah okay and that was the promise of the great and dreadful day coming, the fire. And both of those are not all life. Right. They're regional, like the world is regional. Yeah. I think the flood was a regional flood, but many people really don't like that.
But I don't see how humankind had spread beyond that great basin. And I don't think Noah collected every animal on the earth. He collected all the ones that were the major species in that basin. And therefore when the ark landed and they all went back out, they were on the place that they were going to live.
And we don't have marsupials swimming across the pacific ocean to get to australia yeah you know i see um it is a little weird i'm seeing in the camera that we're both looking the same way because we're looking at each other right now so maybe we should look at the screen to look at each other um i'm going to do a little test test here and see if that comment shows up.
That's a good idea, we should just look at the screen. Um okay commenting here okay not sure that the comments are showing up so we'll see how this plays out today. It might be not doing what we hoped it would. Which is actually a problem. Because that's the whole point of this is that the chat would come up.
I just tried chatting and it didn't come through comedy it didn't come through or maybe nobody's even on can you see me now sarah we see your chat yes hello um okay next question here genesis 9 16 implies that a covenant is a one-way promise because animals can't respond. The LDS say a covenant is a two-way promise.
Do you have any comments on that? The covenant that God made with Abraham was one way, and God couldn't swear by anything that was higher than him, so he swore by himself. And he's the one while Abraham slept that walked through the bereft, the cut pieces of the sacrifice. So it's a one way thing in that covenant.
When it comes to Christ, I think that there's a two way covenant being that's involved. He covenants to do the work he did and we covenant by faith to trust in it all right okay what are some biblical examples of two-way promises that the lds would use to justify their current covenant set up? Well, the LDS have a scripture in Doctrine and Covenants 82.
10 that says, I, the Lord, am bound when you do what I say. But when you do not what I say, you have no promise. And so they use Old Testament contract making in their explanation of covenants. So if you pay tithes, you will not be destroyed at his coming. That's an LDS promise. So what the LDS is, if you obey everything God says, you actually can control the powers of heaven.
You can get your will done on this earth by obedience to these covenants that are made, tithing, Sabbath day, the covenants in the temple, all of that stuff. But with a Christian, what we say is the covenant is one of grace through faith you merely possess faith and then you accept God's will so it's a very different thing than what the LDS preach and I hope I made sense with that all right real quick so the whole point of this was that you all could it would combine the conversations going on on the different channels and it's not doing that today so gotta figure out what went wrong but um if
you're hearing me read questions it's from other people on other channels that we're streaming to right now so uh just so you are aware um they're saying also it's okay if we look at each other it doesn't bother them oh good it's good to know you look great today by the way i think it actually is working do i look at me again yeah no the other way yeah you are looking at me here we're looking at each other it's just backward on your computer that's the whole thing okay yeah oh wow we're just talking about that okay sorry guys this is quite the session okay what are the biblical covenants
well okay it's a huge question uh when you consider the old testament but bottom line the first covenant was god through abraham the second covenant is god and noah where he says i will not destroy that was a covenant god made okay and then through the nation of israel the covenant was that of obedience to the law will procure your blessings.
And that was really a marriage contract. That was the ketubah contract where God said, nation of Israel, don't have any other gods besides me. And then all the other commandments that he lists after those 10 were expressions of how to avoid worshiping other gods. Don't commit adultery. Don't steal. But the real covenant with God was, I am your God.
You are my children. I will take care of you as a man takes care of his wife, as a father takes care of a son. Then the covenant of grace, which came in where God did all the works necessary through his son. And then we covenant to believe on him. And God, by that faith, God's promises are made true.
Okay. Yeah. Okay. You can call and text 220-22-HOTM if you're new here give us a call is communion in all four gospels is the next question i think it's referenced in all four i'm not sure in john's if what he actually says in fact john might give a more detailed account of the Last Supper and what Christ instituted, but I do believe communion is mentioned in all four.
The question I have is, and I don't mean this disrespectfully, but how come someone doesn't, one, just type in AI, is communion mentioned in all or gospels, because it tells you if you did that and or look at in the Bible and see. So I'm not sure what is being done when a question like that's asked. I'm not saying they can't. Well, I think a lot of people are using your, the Yeshuans AI as an AI.
Oh, okay. Like that's what, where these questions are coming from oh if you guys yeah sorry that wasn't how do we answer through ai on the yeshuans site when they ask a question like that okay this is what's going on for anyone listening we produce content he's produced content most of it has been written we've put that all into our app at yeshuans it's 20 years of written content we have an ai bot that you can ask questions to that answers just from that written content and now i'm looking at people's questions to it and asking it to you so that then we put those answers back in text into the content.
So the answer base gets better and better over time. So then keep asking every question. That's what got it. And so people are using, like, they could go to chat GPT and ask is communion in all four gospels, but chat GPT has like a really specific idea of christianity based on the internet and yeshuans provides a different understanding of so maybe we would say communion in this gospel meant this actually and you know we would give different answers actually someone testing what we are saying yes from our own words see this is why delaney is such
a fantastic partner because she's cut her teeth on all this stuff in in school and came and brought it all forward and explained it to me and creates it and puts it together so i praise god for for this. Really great. So, yeah, please check out the Yeshuens app, and it's improving over time. It's really baseline right now, most valuable products kind of thing, but we're working on it.
Okay, more questions. So from, I thought you were on, you were an AI. We are not an AI. I don't know what you mean by that. Alana, is that, or Alan? Alana, I don't know what you mean. You thought we were an AI. What does that mean tell us okay jeff in the forums said the yeshuin's app forum said in our most recent i don't get the bible episode we glossed over a reference to jeremiah 31 31 through 34 which is a set of verses that you reference a lot.
We're going through Hebrews on I Don't Get the Bible. And I made a connection between where that is cited in Hebrews. And I realized, oh, it's like cited a lot in the New Testament as well. He asked, Delaney or Sean, do you have somewhere where you discussed your thoughts on jeremiah that you were referring to in that episode or could you sum up your understanding of what its implications are in a sentence or two here so i can understand how it differs from other interpretations if others have any yeah one i don't know what other
interpretations are i just know that okay let me just work through it really quickly. We are Israel by adoption through faith, okay? Paul makes that clear. True Israel are those who are circumcised of the heart, not the skin, okay? So in Jeremiah, God prophesies through him and he says, in that day, I will write my laws.
And he's talking to the house of Israel and Judah, which is us by adoption. In that day, meaning after all the law and the prophets are over, Christ has done his work. Pentecost falls, God says, I will write my laws on their hearts and on their minds. And no man will say, know the Lord, know the Lord, for all will know me from the least to the greatest.
And I will forgive their sins and remember them no more. And I will be their God and they shall be my people. I will be their God and they shall be my people. So we take that and we, like Delaney said, we see it referenced twice in Hebrews chapter 8 and chapter 10. And the writer of Hebrews is telling them we're in that day, Jews.
God is writing on our hearts individually. Now, that age had to fade out and end with the return of Christ. So the apostles were writing as if it was then happening, but it wasn't fully in place. That's why we see them practicing forms of religion still.
But in our day, since Christ has come back, as we think we can prove, Since Christ has come back, as we think we can prove, we live in the age of the spirit where God writes his laws upon individuals, hearts and minds. And no one can say to them, you don't know the Lord because they know him in the spirit of Christ within them. That's what I think it means. Okay. And it makes a big connection in Hebrewsrews 10 if anyone's interested yeah uh which sort of rounds it all out uh sarah as a christian who grew up in the baptist and evangelical church and who still spends a lot of time in those circles through check my church
investigations i've never heard any church or pastor address Jeremiah's prophecy of the new covenant and God writing his laws on our hearts and minds ever. That's amazing. I've never heard that. I didn't hear of it either until I came across it. I'm like, what? Yeah. You pick out some things about the Bible that are completely just not addressed.
It's that jeremiah and then the acts being laid at the root of the tree being concluding wrapping up the old testament and then the new testament apostolic records starting with the axes what is it laid at the root of the tree yeah yeah malachi say neither root nor branch and then malachi uh ends 400 years go by and john shows up and says the the axe is laid at the root of the tree it's insane yeah like that's the that's another thing and uh just to let you know Lainey has pointed this out and I've said it once is that I believe most modern Christians
know the lyrics of the Bible, but they cannot hear the music. And really to be able to worship God in spirit and truth, you got to know the lyrics and you got to know the music. Mm-hmm. I'm curious. Maybe this is a way we can ask the chat questions now and get their their information um like we're starting to position yeshuans as a platform that teaches a biblical philosophy and there's so much loaded into that statement, but it implies that we are individuals that can come to a new biblical philosophy today.
And that sounds really scary. Yeah. If you, especially if you come from religion, except Mormonism, you are oddly comforted by that. Um, I just want to know what everyone's impressions of that is like do you have a hard time hearing that did it take is it like it's almost hard for me to write that on the website that we're doing that because it feels it's so ingrained that that's wrong to do that so chat what do you all think of the fact that we're doing that as, and that we're saying we're doing it as a family, like we're a family that does that together.
It's such a weird thing. We haven't really included that those people who have been with us forever are part of that family in that we're all together in this. And so why a biblical philosophy, Sean? Yeah. Because we have tried to practice wrongly for 2000 years, a biblical church. And that's never been God's intention in our estimation.
We think we can prove it through the Bible. So what do we do with the Bible? And we think that instead of practicing and teaching dogmas, we teach a philosophy about what the Bible is presenting. And then we teach what the Bible says, and we let you decide what you believe, how it works, because you're responsible with God writing his laws on your heart and on your mind. Yeah.
It's pointing out to the fact that we do this anyway. Yeah. Like, to the fact that we do this anyway yeah like we all have our own philosophy about the bible anyway anyway unless you like really refute anything that you believe and prescribe to a doctrine that someone else created which a lot of people do that i guess those doctrines were biblical philosophies at one point anyway the if you're like deferring to the early church fathers or whatever what like those were also biblical philosophies because when you think about it systematic theology is a philosophy it's taking the bible and systematically laying out how you have to
believe yeah that's a philosophy for life here you believe this way here so we're not really doing anything that significant or different so don't feel guilty i really want to know what you all think about that facts but sarah said just like i've never heard the truth about biblical tithing or the complete lack of any biblical grounds for the authority of pastors quote unquote i think churches hide a lot of the Bible to maintain power and control. Amen. Yeah.
We're getting, we're putting up some clips from old content or newer content that, um, has you like calling out the LDS prophets and things like that. Oh, and people comment things like, uh, everyone has a, you know, there's a very wide spectrum of what people view the prophets are doing. But often people will be like, no one said that they're infallible.
No one said that they're even like have authority. People will say that. And it's like, they are the sheer idea that they're standing there and saying God told them something implies authority. Pastors do that too. They'll be like, I'm just a man. It's like, but you're standing up. Do you have anything about that? God says.
God wants you. God this. They speak for God. That's authority. So where do they get it? Whoever is saying that stuff online about the Mormon prophetson prophets is full of it yeah they have the authority they speak for god they are his mouthpiece and what they say is infallible when the brethren have spoken the thinking has been done so whoever says we've never claimed that our prophet is in papalonia but the man may may fail sometimes oh yeah sure yeah so that they will say stuff like that not when he says thus saith the lord
um alan said i've come to similar conclusions as you and agree with most things you say but i I think that all true believers have done this throughout history because we have Jesus's words. I think that we can't have conversations like this without declaring it to be the new way. That's true. I agree.
I think we're just trying to come up with new terms to say what this is that are not saying it's religious but to say it's been going on all this time like we're trying to fit in with the reality of what the last 2 000 years have been yeah where religion is a big like pretending game of what the two what do you agree with that yeah and we're trying to show that if people accept the fact that we can prove or show that God never wanted brick and mortar to keep going, that what's left, they'll say.
Education is left. Yeah, definitely. And our education is based on a philosophy. What's the philosophy? Fulfillment. Yes. Fulfillment. Yeah. Fulfillment. And the religion. The end of everything. And. Fulfillment. Yeah. Fulfillment. And the religion. The end of everything. And so we now all live. That's the philosophy.
And you can't teach that. You can educate people by it, but we want to prove it through the Bible so that we aren't viewed as just creating some kind of system that's not couched in the biblical text. Yeah, so it's a biblical philosophy. Biblical philosophy all the way. It's not a general philosophy.
No, it's not a man-made philosophy. Biblical philosophy. How do you answer the plethora of comments that say, oh, look, another person that's come up with a new thing after 2,000 years of not knowing this new thing? Oh, well, then I would say that's what the with a new thing after 2 000 years of not knowing this new thing oh well then i would say um that's what the jews said about jesus yo look look at this guy he come we've had 1500 years of knowing what to do and who is this yokel i would say what did they say to martin luther
oh we've had a thousand five hundred years of doing the church as Catholics. Who are you, Martin Luther? I mean, it takes a certain time and place in the spirit of Christ, in the right people, in the right circumstance. They are not important. They're not any different. We're all on the same team. But to use that logic is just dumb in the face of everything that's happened.
Yeah. But to what Alan said, there's another way to look at it that this is what people have been doing for 2000 years. That's right. Like we're not doing anything new. Right. Since Christ, people have had to figure out how to live. Yeah. After he ended religion, and they all just made a new religion. Like that's, that's what they've been doing.
There were a few that were pioneers in this and they're like the 16 philosophers that we've mentioned before. They stepped out and the, the Anabaptists were ones who were put to death for challenging it. So Alan's right. Individual believers have been doing this forever yes yes yeah let's have the internet now and we're calling them out and challenging them yeah pro uh professor feather says uh i think it's the correct approach and i think it's not for everybody because our hearts are deceitfully wicked and truth is a sword
deceitfully wicked and truth is a sword that's true yeah it's definitely not for everybody just like yes sure wasn't for everybody yeah um yeah i think we uh alan call no man on earth father or pastor yeah and he says yes says, yes, I agree completely. Those who worship the father will worship him in spirit and in truth. Fully agree.
Once again, sorry to be repetitive, but I want to make sure everyone knows that this is Yeshua's, go to Yeshua's.faith to learn more about what we're doing. You can call in 220-222-4686. We're calling this the fireside. And I'm declaring on the website now that this is an open call for engagement now. For the last 20 years, he's been doing R&D, we've called it, on this biblical philosophy that we're presenting.
That's what you've been doing. All the research is free and available on our app. But starting 2026 with Epiphany, with the next age that we're talking about, this is an open call for people to engage with us. Critics are like-minded. We want to interview them. We want to be interviewed on their stuff. We want to present this and butt it up against all worldviews and make it better in that way.
So if you have anyone that you think we'd be good to reach out to, please let us know. And just to add to that, if there's something unique to what we are creating, understand clearly because it's a philosophy. We do not say God is telling us to do this. We are saying what every religious person has done when they bring forward their thoughts and ideas, even their religion, we're saying, we think this is better. So here's what we think is better.
So we're not saying it's inspiration from God that's led us to do it, although it could be. We're just saying, this is what we think. And if you differ with us, the beautiful thing about it is we love you and we want to unite with you anyway. Yeah, it's like a progressive adaptation to what, where the world's at and religion's really scared to do that.
Uh, they always want to defer back to rather than acclimate to the new. Right. Um, and by the way, I just want to point something out. One of the things that I am personally convinced is going to start and continue to take place is leadership from the feminine side within the faith now uh because 2 000 years of patriarchy has led to nothing but what we've got in calvin. And it's led to nothing but men still trying to apply that model.
And we see some of the most spiritually inclined people, men or women, approaching the faith with a more feminine touch. I don't mean necessarily female, but I do think females should play a far more significant role in the faith where patriarchy has excluded them for 2,000 years. So, you know, you could say, well, a woman has to cover her head in the church and can't speak in the church. Dude, you're talking about a culture 2,000 years ago.
I think the Spirit is moving the world to say, let's let our, our, let's let women bring forth their beautiful gifts of the spirit into the faith and help us understand God better. Because I think they, they emblematically represent Jesus and his spirit far more than men. Yeah.
You have a lot of basis for that too but it's like that's not just an opinion that comes from well it is like we're saying everything's an opinion but that's based in a lot of um how you see the arc of the bible happening as well and the makeup of god yeah and uh you know all of that but it is a big it's a distinguishing point to say it's not females necessarily it's just the feminine the feminine which really good and i hate to say it but good females embody and good christian males embody you know have in them have in them. Have in them. Yeah.
Yeah. That tenderness, that mercy, that kindness. Yeah. What's feminine? What is the feminine, like the characteristics from your perspective? Okay. Well, I would, before I answer that, I've looked it up to make sure that I am, and I've looked at the secular world to define masculinity and femininity.
Well, that's highly debated right now. It is. But the secular world of scientists, social scientists, psychologists, psychiatrists, all put general traits of more masculinity and more femininity in categories. And those categories of femininity match much better to what Christ taught, fruit of the Spirit Christ yeah I stopped in the law yeah the masculine law so that's why I think we're moving into that like that you're the Old Testament to the apostolic record shift yeah to you is a more masculine to feminine shift yeah so the characteristics you
see between the two might help you understand what you mean by feminine right and I'm not saying that men should become feminine. I'm saying that they have a feminine side that they should appeal to more than the masculine stuff of warfare, bloodshed, law, control. Christ was very tender. He was merciful. And that's what the scripture says. He was a giver of life. Women are the givers of life.
You know, they are the ones when a society is run by women or is filled with women who are good, the society is strong and healthy. When the women go, the society goes. Men are always ruining society, but Christ brought a better way.
And his spirit is much more feminine in nature not female feminine in nature meek kind loving long-suffering forbearing the suffering part you know alice cooper used to sing only women lead not talking about menstrual cycle about the pain that women feel in this world when god became incarnate and and christ experienced what it meant to be human he brought forward a feminine approach to fixing the world not a masculine that's old testament that's calvinism that's the law not to belabor this point but i it seems to me like because you uh hedge when you say good women
i know there isn't like a we haven't like figured out what that really means i think that what you're trying to say is women that are feminine because there are women that are masculine yeah i mean i'm talking about general categorization of female traits. And, and women and the biological woman that embodies femininity, right, is what you think is a good woman. That's what we would and femininity not being like petite.
Oh, no, no, no. It's like meek and graceful and caring and that sort of thing. Okay, so the way Paul described a woman to be toward her husband is for her to respect him and make him feel like he's the king. And the husband was supposed to love her, right? That's the only thing the Bible was supposed to love her right those that's the only thing the bible really says about husband and wife well god loved the world god had his only beloved son he loved them the son emblematic of the wife toward god never had an idol the son never let anything hurt his allegiance to god was like a
good faithful wife like mom is to me respectful respectful and dutiful and long-suffering and patient and kind that's what i mean by a good woman and a man can follow those traits and makes him better not worse to god to god and to others to like love others yeah okay yeah there's a guy who does some kind of show on me i don't know he's got like five followers but for some reason he wants me to be the focus of his stuff he's all over this masculine feminine thing you know and then he has as incorrect. Yeah. Yeah. As incorrect.
Because that's, that is your refute to the Trinity is describing. It's in great part toward that. Yeah. Is that what he's criticizing? Is your, no, he's criticizing that I am turning into a Gnostic that is making God a female and a male. Oh, wow. That's not what you're doing at all. Not at all. Okay.
I actually think the patriarchal interpretations of Paul and Peter are mistaken. Hold on. I agree. Even in the context under which they were writing. Priscilla was approved by Paul and she led a house church and corrected Apollos on doctrine too. Paul either contradicted his own teaching or people are misunderstanding what he meant in the verses used to silence women in churches.
And this is where we need people like Sarah and Delaney and Cassidy and others to write about these things. and Cassidy and others to write about these things and show the men what it looks like to be a follower of Christ as a female and show that leadership that males just through misogyny and patriarchy keep shutting down because they want the power. Yeah, definitely. Okay.
Definitely. Okay. Okay. Did you have any questions this week, Emma? I'm finding I have a lot more here, but I'm sifting through them. I didn't prepare at all for this. Someone said you aren't in a cult unless there's worshiping going on do you have a comment about that you aren't in a cult aren't yeah unless worshiping i don't know what they mean worshiping of what of a man well maybe that's true worship of any kind what about of god i don't know we get oh oh oh i see you aren't in a cult like you have to be worshiping god is going on no you aren't in a cult unless worshiping
cults worship something like something like a man or a uh figurine or something like cults that's what he's trying to point out is that's an indicator of a cult is there's worship of a thing okay is that true and he he extracts that from the worship of god i'm assuming well i think this person that I'm not sure actually, because, um, because they worship in Christian churches and you consider that a cult like, well, someone also said to us, congrats on getting halfway out of a cult.
And I said, what cult are we in? And he said, you believe in God, don't you? So it could be that. Okay. Look at man, everything is cultural and everything on earth is a cult, Everything. So get over it. You know, everything.
The question is, is it a benign cult? Or is it a malignant cult? Is it a cult that uses the authority of God and says, follow me because I've got it? And then tries to control and demand all things from your life? Or is it a cult like being a Chicago Bulls fan? And you wear the shirt and you scream Bulls. I mean, everything's a cult. So it's such a cheap word. I really, bleh.
Yeah, it's getting old. Um, I, that helps me actually, because my understanding of Yeshuans, I feel like it can bleed out to all of the world. And in that we, the position on truth is related to our position on God.
And I get into the mode of thinking we need to fight that even like our religious nature in general to anything that's like not even just God but that seems wrong like it seems like the time like we're going to do that no matter what we it's not worth really fighting against that except when people wield it in the name of god that's when it's problematic do you see that yeah i do i do i also think that like what we're trying to do can very easily go two directions um the first direction is it can go the way of the quakers where some quakers where it started off as freedom and worship and silence to being fully going into the world and even not even caring
about the god element of it it's just fully focused on humanism you think yes you could like that's one're not careful? Yes. Yeah. And the other thing that could possibly happen is that we become another religion. Yeah. I used to listen to Chuck Smith say, we don't want Calvary Chapel to be a religion.
We just want it to be a way to pursue God if you want. And it's just a full-blown religion now. That's all it is. So humankind, and we've met people who want to make it a religion and they have ideas on how to do it. And that means a restriction. It means condemnation. It means judgment.
It means laws, rules. And so it's going to take our family who knows what we've teeth on whether your blood relative or part of the group from the whole time part of our leadership group and think tank to fight against that yeah agreed let me read the chat could Todd says what Shawn is talking about uh reminds me concerning feminine traits that the same as how love is described love is patient love is kind does not every just not those it's not proud does not dishonor others it's not self-seeking it's not easily angered keeps no
record of wrongs does not delight in evil rejoices of the truth always protects always trust always hopes always perceives never fails that's correct yeah that is what you're saying love is or what feminine is because that's what christ that was christ's answer to religion which is law which is masculine that's right that's right and good point todd yeah it's a great point and because um uh Yeah, it's a great point.
And because those traits are more feminine, you know, we men, in order to exist in this world by the spirit of man, it's almost like they have to boast because that's how they get jobs that's how they survive and you know you that's a not a bad thing like you have to have a self-assurance and sure it's a gift yeah but in the faith that nature cannot be included on what we should be in the faith that's the same thing as this cult thing there's a place for um culture sure for like idolatry of some form like i don't not i know idolatry is related to god but like chicago bulls that's almost kind of like idolatry like you love it so
much like it's your god like that's what i mean and i just while you're on that god said in the ketubah contract with the nation of israel i am the lord thy god have no other gods before me you're gonna have other guys you're gonna have other gods because we have to worship meaning give our attention and time and our allegiance to things like money and bills and yeah so but it's don't have any before him yeah i think that's i we're speaking and hope that you guys chime in your opinions always but i think
that that's the distinguisher of yeshuans that religion is trying to get rid of this world like you can't have any gods yeah and it's like. You, I think you've been in that place before where it was like, there's no way to exist in this world and for God at the same time.
It's not like you eventually want to die. Yeah. And then also the scripture says you cannot serve God and mammon. Yes. The serving is synonymous with worship. So you're, yeah, you're always, and that's what you see in Christians. I don't know what to do. I don't't know how to be you have a life that requires you to do what's necessary in this life god has made it so all your failures in that are taken care of yeah where's your heart is your heart toward him and him alone and then you will behave better in those other things that you're doing. Yeah. And that's where that perspective allows us to allow everybody to do what they do without caring that they are Satanist or get drunk all the time.
Like you don't have to care about that. Because it's them and God and they are responsible because we don't die with them and add to the judgment yeah and that's what you're talking about with mormonism it's like it's fine like it is great in this world actually good yeah yeah but it's not going to go with you like death it's like do you want death in the end right we could use their youth program we could use their youth program. We could use their welfare program. We could use their cultural halls. Nothing wrong with it. It's good in this world.
Yeah. What we're trying to say is you want to really be better. Get rid of your BS about God and doctrine and worship and rights and rituals and embrace the truth. And you will have something that will change the world. Yeah.
But they won't do it wow i think i'm hearing you in a new way right now suddenly the lady has new ears to hear and eyes to see truly since having a baby and i think that's something about womanhood too that when they give birth and give life i i sound like I'm like a female person or something. I just have been around women and I just know them really well. And man, what an overlooked subject and overlooked gift that we have in this world.
And I think by virtue of them bearing children, they bring something to the table. It's like Christ bringing somebody forth to life. Yeah. It's really unique. I'm shocked at what having a child for two weeks has done to me, for sure. And so we have the process of having children totally attacked by the world, have sex with anybody you want, ruin your body, have abortions.
I am not making a political statement. I'm just saying that there is a beauty to a woman who seeks to walk with the Lord in spirit and truth. Yes. Sarah, I think religion also wants to make religious rulers their gods to usurp Christ's authority and the seat of Moses. They want to forget the gospel so they can mediate.
makes so much sense why you get a lot of crap from like calvinist specifically about your focus on love yeah because they hate women so much like that association and your focus on love has brought you to this idea about femininity because love was your thing for a really long time it still It still is. And then Todd's, like, relation between the two. Okay. On Adam's Road's Ministry, your expose video.
Yeah. Go Wanderlust with me says, He's guilty of so much more unprofessed. He brought others into sin, caused them to be a mesh in his sin, blah, blah, blah. They furthered their own sin nature with this sin as well. The whole thing's sickening. You know who I feel sad for? Not Micah, but his righteous parents.
I just I'm not saying they're not righteous. I had to find any human. It's why I'm not righteous. No, not one brother or sister. Yeah, you know, I feel sorry for in the whole thing. Most is his wife. Yeah, she loves Micah. They have kids together. And now he's taking on another wife. Not only that they're promoting polygamy now. He hasn't turned from his ways. They're promoting it.
Oh, sorry. I missed this, Professor Feather. But he said the Holy Spirit is feminine in the original text as well. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. Which and then the spirit of Christ. Yeah. Evolving. Yeah. And then the spirit of Christ evolving. You know, there's so much music that is not heard. If you try to read the Bible verse by verse, chapter by chapter, book by book, and make those things laws and things.
There are things that you miss unless you try to see it from a very large view, front to back, beginning to end, and just keep incorporating all those different facets. You'll get to a place where the music starts playing and the heart of God starts accompanying the lyrics and your interpretation of those lyrics are there.
I want to give you one quick example. It says that the greater light shall rule the day and the lesser light shall rule the night. And you think, oh, okay, sun and moon, fine. But then you see that the greater light, the sun, is originating the power, right? And the lesser light, the moon, is reflecting that power.
Christ was reflecting God's glory. He was in the image of the invisible God. So we have the sun, God the Father, shining and giving it, and we have Christ reflecting it back on earth to us. So the greater light rules the day. The lesser light rules the night. And the night is emblematic of people who are lost and in sin.
He came to find the lost. He came to help the lost. All of these things, I just discovered this in my own study this morning, these things play in the music of God. That's really nice. Okay, we need to wrap this up. We hope you guys will share our content with friends.
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little bit crazy like yeah too too too into doctrinal yeah like theological debate on social media makes me want to crawl into my skin it's it's so and we look like we play into that with the stuff that we put up which is a little bit hard but uh todd i thought the holy spirit was neuter in the text except once where the grammar demanded a male assignment to be consistent with how it was written in the new in the apostolic record that is true it's gender neutral but in the old testament the jews perceived the holy spirit as feminine yeah wow that's what that
earlier writer is probably talking about yeah so that's radical so that guy who's attacking me for god being feminine if the Holy Spirit is the third person of the Holy Trinity and is feminine, you tell me. Yeah. Hayden said, listened on my way to work. Love you guys. Love you, Hayden. All right. So to wrap it up, Yeshuans, we are building out the YES program, which is really the flagship featured thing on it.
It's to go through our leadership and courses and stuff to eventually be a part of what we're calling a think tank. And it's to be a part of this family. we could really call it the family too boy now we're really going down the call i know yeah that would be true they hate that stuff family of god oh even though god calls it his family i know all think tank is really more suited to what the purpose is which is to consult with us can i can i speak to that for a second, please? And that is, you know, what a beautiful idea that we get a bunch of people who have their unique,
distinct perspectives, but they really do love God and they seek to follow and honor him in whatever way they choose. they don't necessarily agree with everything and for them to go through the leadership here our perspective challenge it in ways accept in ways and to belong to our leadership so that if if it grows this think tank grows we have a whole basket of people from different walks of life that in their person prove our point.
Doctrinal divisions and practical divisions do not matter. It's really the individual, their faith, and their love. And that's my hope, is that we get more people like Todd and Sarah and Claire and Osvaldo and the people of the past who have been in the leadership to just be part of this loosely knit think tank group.
Because imagine the power of all those minds of different divergent thought who have decided to get along in faith and love. That power is just unreal. And I really hope that's what happens yeah i agree um we welcome you clearly all of you to be a part of that um and we are starting the next round pretty soon if you've signed up for that we'll be contacting you yeah when are we starting may uh uh april i think but we haven't told them that.
And our former students are, students, I'm sorry. You're not students. Well, education. Our former students are coming in to help. And they bring a lot to the table, a lot of knowledge, years of experience. I get informed by them on things I have never seen or heard. And it always opens me up to greater understanding, less dogma, and more love.
Todd said, sorry to be the black sheep foot and mouth member of our think tank. Very glad for grace. You're not at all. You're a man I respect completely and love. Todd and I, we will differ on things. I just wrote him like a volume about something, poor guy. But that's the thing. It's not those views that will ever divide us because of the love of God and Christ in all of these people.
Yeah. And Sarah said, I think we're all the black sheep here. And that's probably actually the most true. Yeah, actually, it's going to be a white sheep that is passed out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're the white sheep here, Todd. Okay. We'll call it. We'll keep working on the technical stuff. But thank you all for being a part. Okay.