Hebrews Chapter 10

Hebrews Chapter 10 | I Don't Get The Bible by Yeshuans

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I Don't Get the Bible with Delaney and Sean, and we are in Hebrews chapter 10. All right. If you don't know us, we're part of Yeshuans. Go to yeshuans.faith, Y-E-S-H-U-A-N-S. We are reading the Bible. I'm learning it really for the first time from the perspective that it's a record of the end of material religion.

Yeah. Would you say that? I would. Okay. Hebrews 10. For the law, having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, I could do a study on that line forever, can never, with their sacrifices, which they offered year by year, continually make the comers their unto perfect. So all the blood of animals year after year did not make anybody perfect to enter the presence of God.

For then would they not have ceased to be offered? Because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. But in those sacrifices, there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats should take away sins. for it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats should take away sins is this trying to say like my question is like always did the jews of that time know that the law they were trying to obey was just a shadow of what was to come. I think there were some who understood,

who really did understand what was being said, but I think most did not, which is why the writer of Hebrews is trying to teach them. Like that question would be answered today still. Like, are there Jews that understand their text as not fully complete. Do you get what I'm saying? Yeah, because they have expected a Messiah and he hasn't come in their mind.

Yeah, like the Old Testament on its own should indicate that the law isn't like complete without a Messiah. Is that right? It should, but I do think that Jews Jews and this is not an expert yeah the field for me but I do think that the Jews believe that they're justified by the law I know it's a big question yeah like that's what Christ does and it's it's a big factor in them not recognizing Christ yeah if they didn't know that what they were doing wasn't a complete and with that it was just a shadow yeah they yeah

and so that's why I think he is explaining it this clearly yeah because they didn't get it yeah fortunately they didn't get it yeah because it was for our benefit and they're rejecting the messiah that it was transferred to us i know it's kind of gnarly yeah people have a hard time with that one yeah it's like but the whole goal was not them in the end like that would lead to some bitter yeah that's what that's why they hate christ yeah um but is he saying they're like because for then would they not have ceased to be offered

like is he saying that's what i'm kind of asking is he saying that they didn't know because he's like you wouldn't have offered those sacrifices if you knew that it was just an incomplete shadow do you get what i'm saying i think he's more saying that if you realize the role of the messiah who is not a shadow but the real thing wouldn't keep offering okay okay wherefore when he comes into the world, he says, sacrifice and offering thou what is not, but in a body hast thou prepared me, and burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

Then said I, lo, I come, in the volume of the book it is written of me, to do thy will, O God. That's Christ saying that? Yeah, and that's a prophecy okay yeah from when i don't know where it's at but it's from the old testament above when because they were they got to the point where they thought their sacrifices the more they did them and the greater, the better.

And God says to them back in that day, I don't want this. I want a broken heart and contrite spirit. I don't want the blood of a thousand rams and bulls and goats. You've misunderstood the purpose. And they misunderstood it from the get go. Well, there is an answer to the question. That's a prophecy from the Old Testament.

Like, yeah, but they're reading that. I understand. But. I don't know. There is that interpretation is possible without the. It is. New Testament. Maybe. I don't know. That's why there were jews i mean the early christian church were all jews who converted yeah to the messiah they never would have done that if they didn't have an understanding somehow that he was the promised one and he was bringing he they understood his teachings but they had to have ears to hear and eyes to see and yeshua says they love the darkness more than the light

so they're never gonna receive me because they'd rather have their power and what they've got than me yeah the more the longer we go in hebrews the more i do not understand what Christian Christianity is about because the Christianity is Christ. The whole work of Christ was fulfilling the Jewish everything.

everything and like all christianity is really is just being thankful for christ doing something for the jews not for us really like he did it is for us now but right to understand christ is to understand judaism exactly and christianity is not about that today. When we were on TV, I said this line, Christ did not come for us.

He came for the Jews. And we had a caller who said, that's just not true. See, you just don't know the scripture. We benefit from it completely. But the work of Christ is like completely incomprehensible to both a Gentile then and especially a Gentile 2,000 years later who's completely out of touch with Judaism.

You're getting it. Hebrews really paints that picture. So then Mormonism, you like... They don't read it. It's like really emphasized. Mormonism, you like, they don't read it. It's like really emphasized. Above when he said sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin, thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein. Wow.

I'm not understanding this, which are offered by the law. He didn't have pleasure in all the offerings okay then he said lo i will come to do thy will oh god he taketh away the first that he may establish the second wow yeah i mean establish the second yeah right Yeah. Right. By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the right hand of God from henceforth expecting till his enemies be made till his enemies be made his footstool. This man. Yeah. They never, ever go this God. Yeah. Never. This man. Yeah, that's so true. For by one offering, he has perfected forever them that are sanctified.

One offering. Perfected them that are sanctified, though. What is that? Like, it's not everybody. It's them that are sanctified. I think he, because he's writing to Hebrews, is talking about those elect of the nation of Israel who were predestined to receive him. At that time. At that time. Don't mistake us for saying that still the same today. Yeah, not at all.

It's definitely not to us and it wasn't to us even written back then. It was to them. And so the function of christ's sacrifice for a sanctified group was what was going on then yeah yeah and then he fulfilled it and now it's for all of us that's right and that group that was predestined according to uh ephesians one were jews and they were his bride see and that's why we had a young man sitting here and said i'm part of the bride you're not part of the bride they were the ones who didn't defile themselves with idolatry they're the

ones that revelation speaks of a hundred 144,000 of them. They were the ones predestined to become his bride. That had to be worthy, pure, holy. And that's what all of this is speaking to. Yeah. Okay. Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us. For after that, he said before, this is the covenant that I'll make with them after those days sayeth the lord i will put my laws into their hearts and in their minds while i write them and their sins and iniquities while i remember no more now where remission of these is there is no more offering for sin

yep that citation is that the jeremiah jeremiah citation because that jeremiah 31 31 through 34 is so explicit and then for it to be cited here in hebrews twice it's so clear clear. It's like. I'm so stoked that you see it. But do we have a mental defect in our family that only we can get this? Because we have scholars.

We have pastors. We have years of tradition. 2,000 who don't get it. Well, I'm part of this family and it was jarring for years. I remember that when you were at Point Loma. Yeah, it's like, it's just a deeply cultural thing. Like you were teaching verse by verse or the Sunday school teaching and just see a prophecy or a parable or whatever, a different way than you ever hear.

And I think it's just thousands of years of culture really baked in. It's like a zeitgeist thing. It's like Trinity. It's so baked in. People can't, Trinity, hell, fire, and second coming is so baked in yeah the thing that our family is blessed by is coming from mormonism actually because and that's why i think i had the hardest time with some of the stuff you're teaching is because i had the most experience with evangelicalism, that is like a different kind of staunch, like cultural theology.

Mormonism, you can like break from really cleanly and go out into the world and like experience it. And evangelicalism muddies it, you know? I do. And that's why so many people who were once LDS who seek like Dani, they get it. They understand you. Yeah, they do. They, they don't have these freaking insane strongholds to things like Trinity and just like just that, that are purely cultural manufactured.

Traditions. Yeah. just that are purely cultural manufactured traditions yeah and there might be like it's because i believe there are historical cycles that the earth goes through with man and it could be just like god allowed paul to be a astute jew most of his life he was the one who was able to explain life, he was the one who was able to explain both to the Jews and then to the Gentiles what it is.

So having been a Mormon, we can explain both to Mormons and then to Christians because we were once part of that. And we have this view that opens us up, but the Christians say they're just spouting Mormon stuff. They never broke free from the Mormon stuff. Yeah. It's such a funny, even though it's as further from Mormonism than anything, but it's also far from Christianity.

It is very, it's a very unique thing that like we have a hard time seeing as unique. Like we're just like, we're just reading the Bible. We care so much about God, about about christ it's not that weird but everyone is just up in arms so um okay it is very very clear though like i see it like very clearly it's not like an interpretive no like dance that you're having to do it's like no it's just like it's almost like too literal right you don't you have to hit your head with a dumb stick to not see it

yeah yeah you really do it's really i think it really is because people are reading this like it's to them that is if you just break the fact that this is not to you because that's how I would open the Bible as a Christian this is going to speak to me in some way and that just changes everything so self-centered if I tell you, man, self-centered is such a good word to describe most Christians today.

But if you can get into that place where you know that the Bible is not written to you, we benefit from it's not written to you. Then what he just said about God would write his laws on our hearts and minds. You're able to say, I love the Bible, but I don't have to live by every word of it because the spirit tells me where I'm at with God and that is so far from evangelicalism unfortunately pastors have preached the Bible as if it was to us and so it reaffirms that prejudice yeah we just had a talk on heart of the matter about how the mormons

call veering from the path like satanic or something christians call living by the spirit satanic literally like that is the fear that's the residual religious trauma that I have is thinking like the fear of living by the spirit as being like cultic or something because you're off on your own. You're not part of tradition.

Like they really instill that fear of like being independent, ignoring that Christ himself said, the spirit goes where it wants. You can't direct it. So are those who are led of the spirit. So all the controls that the religion wants to do that make us feel secure and safe, like we're doing everything right.

When you break from that, it's hard. And so most people can't or won't. Yeah, but there is reason for that because there are people that wield the Spirit for horrible things. Jim Jones, it's not even the Spirit. Jim Jones, Mormonism. Or the phrase living by the Spirit. Yeah. Yeah. And so that's what Christians say is, yeah. Oh, so you're just going to become someone.

And they just ignore the fact that God himself said he's writing the laws and that the fruit of the Spirit is love. And that's how you test it. Yeah. And the fact that God himself said he's writing the laws and that the fruit of the spirit is love. And that's how you test it. Yeah.

And the fact that our, uh, there, the difference between everyone else and the way we're talking about the spirit is that it's only between an individual and the spirit. There's no saying what the spirit's doing with you. There's no collective. No. And that's how it's like literally the opposite of a cold. That's right. But I get why people are like, Oh, you just live by you're coming up with a new thing and you live by the spirit.

You're a cold and like fully embrace it and they dismiss you and it's over. Yeah. Yeah. But I, so I don't know if all of the work we've done will ever take hold because I'm not sure there are many people who will be able to ever really get it unless we keep chipping away and finally it dawns more and more. Yeah. Yeah. And that has to be an act of God because no matter what we say or do, we can't reach them.

But there are people that there's just those random people that hear it the way we do and that does exist and we're finding them yeah and the chipping away is what this work is is like finding ways to articulate how this is different from because it is it's like not what people they just don't hear it so how to say it to someone that's baked in religion right is kind of what the work is yeah um okay oh wow this is a long chapter okay having therefore brethren boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of jesus by a new and living way which he hath consecrated for us through the veil,

that is to say his flesh, and having a high priest over the house of God, let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and our body washed with pure water. Well, that's very clear. Hebrews is seriously the best book ever i'm so shocked at the warnings i got for it because it's by far my favorite it's so clear and beautiful yeah it really is and when he says and therefore we have boldness that lends to the Paul's words of faith, hope, and love, but love is the greatest.

That word boldness will translate to hope, but it doesn't mean I hope he'll let me in. It's I expect. Yeah. The boldness to enter into the holiest. And because that shows faith yeah it's not arrogance it's not on you yeah but when you walk up I am not gonna cower can I come in yeah I'm gonna be like I've trusted him open the doors get out of my way yeah that and it It puts it into context of like that boldness is clear because he's spent all these chapters building up what they've been doing all this time.

And then what the holiest of holies, the holy of holies was and the point of all of it. And then how bold you have to be to assume you can just walk into that after all those years that that's the type of faith that God expects us to walk by. That's right. And so it lacks fear. It has faith and there cannot be faith with fear.

That is, that's really interesting because that is what we're talking about with that religion makes you question that boldness of being like, like trusting the spirit and walking by that. That's what religion's like. That's scary. You should, you should have an accountability group. That's right. Make sure.

You can go off course. Yeah. And when it's very clear, God writes it on your heart so you can go boldly because it's done. And churches don't teach that. They want to keep you fearful. They want to keep you thinking that the acts, failing acts of your flesh keep you alienated from God and they don't.

Well, to your note earlier, I don't think this will ever be a widely popular thing because fear is a lot easier and yeah that bold that boldness is like the narrow way i think that that is talked about like straight or straight and narrow excellent yeah how we're doing in time um we should wrap it up did we we're halfway through um about there's a little bit left but we can continue chapter 10 is there something that pertains to that after boldness to enter. Let us draw near with a true heart.

Heart. In full assurance of faith. And our bodies washed pure with water. I don't know what that reference actually means. Our bodies pure with water. Yeah, washed pure with water. I'm not sure. I'm going to look that up. Maybe we can talk about it next time. Well, did the question of baptism, was baptism a requirement of Jews? Yeah.

Well, maybe that's why. It could be. Yeah. Because it was a former ablution they did symbolically. And that's why John came baptizing and why they re-baptized Jews who had followed John in Jesus' name after. Jews who had followed John in Jesus name after. The thing is, Paul says, I'm glad I didn't baptize anybody because to Gentiles, it's not an ordinance of necessity.

But this is a Hebrew, a book to Hebrews. That's right. So that's probably, you're right. See your discernment? Just taught that or something. Let us hold fast to the profession of our faith without wavering for he is faithful that promised. That's what you're saying. It's the expectation. Yeah. He's saying that our faith is in what he promised and like expecting that to be true.

Yeah. What he promised, what he did. Yeah. We don't waver from it. Yeah. And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works, not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together as the manner of some is, but, but exhorting one another and so much the more as you see the day approaching.

Okay. So that passage comes to me from pastors saying, you're rejecting the collecting together. And they don't put it. As you see the day approaching. Day approaching. Yeah. Well, that makes sense. If they think the day is still approaching. That's right. Then we should. And I've always admitted that.

Yeah. Yeah. But no way. Yeah. Okay. All right. Boy, this is a good one. Delaney is like, something's happened to Delaney. I do. Give birth to a baby and suddenly she a prophetess like unto Deborah. Oh my gosh. Not at all. Thanks for watching. All right. We love you guys. Hope you get something out of this.

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