Hebrews Chapter 10, Part 2

Hebrews Chapter 10, Part 2 | I Don't Get The Bible by Yeshuans

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I don't understand the Bible. And we finish Hebrew chapter 10. All right, we're at the verse. 28. He who despised the law of Moses died without mercy, on the testimony of two or three witnesses. What punishment? What punishment? Do you think that he who trampled the Son of God under foot will be judged worthy? This is what he said he would do when he turned away from the faith.

They, he died without mercy under the testimony of two or three witnesses. mercy under the testimony of two or three witnesses. Yeah, how worse it would be for you if you rejected the Son of God rather than Moses, isn't it? And held the blood of the Covenant profane, by which he was sanctified and outraged the spirit of grace.

For we know him who has spoken, Vengeance is mine, recompense is mine, says the Lord. And the Lord will judge his people again. It is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God. Okay, wow! Yeah, so he just tells them not to play with it. And we take that and we extract it for ourselves today.

But you notice that it is addressed specifically to them. In Hebrew, to the people of that time under the law who decided to convert and tread the blood of Christ under their feet. Apparently, this happened to many converts. Oh, I want to pay more attention to it now and go back to the letters to the Gentiles to see how they talk about sin and judgment.

Because it’s really specific to Jews. But how would you describe this? His warnings and all that. He always warns them of the wrath to come. Paul and Peter and all the others, but it's probably primarily aimed at a Jewish audience and gentiles who would become members of the faith. It was all their work to prepare them for this coming wrath, because it was necessary to bring as many Jews as possible to receive it by faith.

But sin and judgment are always faith. Infidelity. For the good guys too. It's a different type of faith. What is this ? A different faith. It comes in a different order. For a Jew, one had to repent of having broken the law, then believe. For the Gentiles, you had to believe, which would lead you to repent.

This is the difference between us today and the Jews of old. Belle and you talked about it, but are belief and faith the same thing? Believe it is. But they are distinguished in the scriptures, but you can use them as synonyms. All right. E. And he often says that he must be specific or explicit that it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

While I wonder if the Jews were saying, is it so easy kind of fat you just get grace and you're forgiven that kind of stuff he said yes it is much more complicated than what you say and well it is that the method of salvation was too easy for them they considered it a stumbling block yeah that's why it says this is something to be afraid of? Of course. Don’t treat it as a non-event. Yeah, because it's fair.

You had the law and the prophets. You killed his son. Don't think that you can. And the fact is that they could have contributed to the son's death and been forgiven if they had turned to him in faith after having made him we know this because throughout the book of Acts the apostles always preach to the Jews and 10 you made him die repent you see so they use this death to try to bring him to repent yeah 1 but remember the days gone by, when, after being enlightened, you endured a great battle of tribulation.

On the one hand, you were made an object of contempt and suffering, and on the other hand, you became the companions of those who were so mistreated. You became companions to those who were so mistreated. For you had compassion on me and my bonds, and you gladly accepted that your possessions were stripped from you, knowing within yourself that you have better and permanent possessions in heaven.

So don't give up on your insurance. to which a large remuneration is attached. Because if you need patience so that after having accomplished the will of God, you obtained what was promised to you, again. A little time, and he who is to come will come, and he will not delay. Now, the righteous will live by faith. But if anyone withdraws, my soul will not delight in him.

For us, we are not of those who withdraw for the PR edition, but of those who believe for the salvation of their soul. Yeah. So it's a big deal on his part to try and that's where it looks like Paul, that's why people think it's Paul. Oh. Yes. I did it for you. Go back to when you first started believing and watching actions.

You were the laughing stock of all Jews and how you joined the body of others who are suffering. Come back to that. He encourages them not to stray from the faith. You were joyful, they, you had compassion for me in my bonds. It must be Paul, right? It looks good, it looks good. He could have been... Put in prison. Yeah, period, yeah, exactly.

All right. But Paul likes to talk about his connections in different places. And so this could very well... Remind everyone of what they suffered. I have been in my bonds. Okay, well... This is chapter 10. Very good. And now we enter a simply fantastic chapter. The other. All. I like this chapter. I love you. I love it.

All right. Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Can you describe? I'll take my example B. I know it's not easy. The example... From the bee. Go for it. Point. Can you tell it? No one has ever seen a bee. But we have the substance of honey. A man and a woman go into the forest.

Not literally. Yeah, I'm making it up. Yeah. One. Man leaves to try to find out where this honey comes from. It is said to come from bees, but is this a myth? He installs cameras, watches a hive, sees honey there. No bee ever shows up. Honey is the substance that bees hope for. Honey is proof that bees are not seen.

So in this case, the bees are God. Bees are God's promises. That's faith, a substance of things. That word thing there. Hope is proof of things. It is used twice. Things are God's promises. Oh ! We could also say God. It could be God too. It could be God. Faith in the existence of God. Of course.

But the reality is that in this sense, it is more of what he promised. Yeah. For them, the question of the existence of God is not even there. Yes. This is about the things that God will do for them if they believe in Christ. So, to put it in our modern language, faith is the substance of God's hoped-for promises. We have hope that he will resurrect us. We have hope that he will forgive us. Faith is the substance of this hope in its promises.

What is honey then? If so, I always thought it was in the existence of God. It doesn't make sense now that I think about it. But what is honey? Faith is a substance. Honey is the substance the bees hope for because we don't have any never seen one. Wait, honey is the stuff bees hope for. Point. Yeah, because we have never seen one. Honey is something bee.

So, but okay, honey is proof that bees do not see eye to eye so the bees are the promises the promises of god what is honey honey is faith honey is what honey really is okay okay okay okay it's actually a thing yeah okay destiny so I've been thinking a lot lately because for me, this amounts to saying that the existence of honey is the proof or is all that I suppose to be the proof of the promises of God.

Yeah. This has not happened yet. It's true. So it's almost like we're doing our kind if honey is our faith, which isn't something we need to generate, is it? I have to bring faith into existence, that means I bring God's promises into existence. All right. So why is there? A debate that God gives you faith is a gift from Him.

Oh ! And this is where Calvinists say that until you give yourself faith, you cannot believe in yourself. Okay, okay, period. So we come to these theological arguments, 1. Gift from him. Well, it makes sense that someone would argue that because recently I've been thinking to myself that I'm making up God.

Yeah. God exists because this sentence suggests to me that God exists because I believe in him. Yeah. What you know is the logic of this sentence. But the question becomes, why do you believe in him? Evidence. Evidence. But hey, that's where honey and Ogis collapse because they say that honey and faith are...

Proof, not. My faith, but hey, that's where the problem is that I think my faith is generated by me, right? And so my generated faith is me producing the proof of God out of nothing. What people do. Yeah. Yes, people do that. But if I continue in this line of thinking long enough, it's like I'm creating God.

And people say that too. That too. I'm not saying it's true. But it is. A line in the Bible that says, is this what God tells us? Yeah. I think so. The question becomes, your faith is not knowledge. Your faith is taking evidence and choosing to use it. As support for the faith you put in the promises of God.

All right ? This faith is when I speak to someone who does not believe that my faith should be proof of God's promises to them It's possible, but that's not the evidence I'm talking about God does not expect us to have faith in emptiness He never did this in the entire record of Scripture So what did he do? The scriptures say he did seven main things to reveal himself.

But he still doesn't say "Here's the bee." All right. So the analogy is confused. So, for me, the proof in all of this is that the proof is my faith, but there is also evidence outside of me and my faith that I have put in that helps me have faith. Is that what you say? Yes, absolutely. Faith is a substance, but that's not what it says. It says that my faith is the proof itself.

It's the stuff. All right. I just agree with you because I think there is room for that. All right. But that's not what he says. It really is. Jeans. Am at the point where I really need to understand the definition of faith. Faith, it’s believing. Taking faith is a choice.

First of all, it's a choice first of all it's a choice okay that means it's not given by god it is offered but not given agreement therefore faith in the promises of god is not something I invented is something God created that I can acquire. Isn't it? You get it. How ? Do you get it? As you assent to the evidence, you see that it is sufficient to have faith in Him and His promises. Other people see the same evidence.

They say, I don't have faith, I don't want to believe that this is proof from God. And they don't. It's a choice. It's always a choice. Faith is not something that overwhelms you. All right. Yeah. That's why I didn't invent it. Because there is a world that exists. I am led there. I observe him. And this world has proof that allows me to have the faith and it's not something I invented, it's this world that gave it to me agreed how did you invent the evidence yeah okay so the evidence is the cosmos the order of nature and all

these things agree with all who believe in these things as proof of the existence of god there are some who say no I don't believe in it agree. For all those who believe in these things as proof of the existence of God, there are those who say "No, I don't believe in them." All right. Question mark.

That's why the only way to please God is by faith, because what do you choose? What is the step to get to looking at something and saying, “I think that’s enough.” Humility is true. This is why the precursor of faith will always be humility. Because if it's not there, you'll think it's stupid. I can think of a better way. And if you are proud, you will never accept the offer to believe because you will see everything.

Christopher Hitchens, Ricky Géry, all of them. Yeah. They all see the same things and they don't care. All right. So can I make a whole episode of this? Yeah, let's continue. All right. Uh. To perhaps go further, in terms of materialism, I suppose there is the matter of this world and that is the proof that God gives us, it is one of the...

Many, okay. There are seven, remember, this... Are the heavens. There are seven, remember, they are the heavens. The material evidence of Kos, the order of the cosmos. Okay, okay. It's in the Bible. It is derived from the teachings of the Bible. All right. Point. There is proof of nature. All right. The cycle of spring, autumn, summer, the birth of animals.

Yeah, life and death, life and death life and death there is proof of spiritual testimony which is not what atheists want you get when you read the consistency in the scriptures agree agree there to the evidence of the testimony of others that you mentioned earlier. All right. Because you look at them and they believe and you say that's pretty reasonable. They are smart or whatever.

Them, and there is evidence of God in you when you do things that are unnatural to who you were before. You see things in a way you've never seen them before. And I don't remember the others. Is this what you found? No, that's what I learned at Christian ministry school. Okay, okay. Point. E. Okay. Faith. We have all these lists of things. Some people look at these things and say they are not evidence of God. This is evidence of something else. It's them. It's faith. It’s faith for them too. And that's something else they're talking about. Is this correct? All right.

what he is talking about is this correct okay so we all have faith yes no one is without faith we would say you and I that it is faith whatever you say is the source of this whole list and what you have faith in isn't it question mark that's it yeah unless you can somehow prove that these seven things were somehow the product of something you can know.

And this is where atheists transcend the idea of ​​faith. They say, we know a Big Bang created our cause. Yeah. They would say they know it, but we say it's faith. As I will argue to the death that this is the faith they have too. And I will too. And the problem is, Christians come in there and say we know. Okay, yeah.

This is not knowledge, it is an error as serious as that of atheists who say that they, yeah. But from now on, I'm going to follow our perspective line. Everyone at once. And it's a materially derived thing, like the... Spiritual, remember it is this testimony within you. Well, I guess maybe that's what I'm trying to make clear is that for me we start with the hardware.

And that whole list is material, in fact, it is an experience. All right. It's part of... Yeah. This part of our material life has something behind it, something spiritual and metaphysical. Beyond that, is that it? Faith then? This is what I am. But... Yes, I try. Really analyzing this sorry this time is a substance of things hoped for the proof of things not seen like what is not seen yeah you won't see never because it is knowledge and knowledge does not please God.

Faith. These things are seen. Like all these things, evidence. Things hoped for. The substance of things hoped for. The substance of the evidence and the proof are the same thing. These seven things are substance and proof and faith. No, I'm really struggling. No, faith is... Substance and faith is the proof. That's what he says.

Faith is the substance and faith is the evidence of the things we... Don't see. And things we hope for. So these are invisible promises from God or from God himself, right? Question mark. All right. It goes beyond... This evidence. These proofs you listed have nothing to do with faith. Like our faith according to this, our faith is the substance of the promise.

As the promise exists because of our faith in it but these things are things we hope for and the proof is not seen we have not seen who created the cosmos we have not seen we do not see who creates the witnesses we do not see who creates the evidence it's just in our faith that we have substance to interpret these proofs as proof of the existence of the hand of God.

I know it's confusing to call this evidence, I guess, because it says that faith is the proof. No, faith is the substance of the things we hope. Faith is the evidence of things unseen. Our faith is the proof. Faith is the proof of unseen things. All right. So, it looks like that means we... let us swear the promise.

And I would say that is the case. This is why we always teach that we get what we want. All right. So that's what I'm trying to say. It seems like I'm trying to understand. And I guess we won't get there, because I can't express it clearly, but there is the material world and we have a role to play in conjuring its source.

Of course. And other people too. They say it's something, and it's called subjective faith. Yeah. But how can we not say that we are creating God? I don't do it. You don't, no. You think you are saying that in this life we ​​create God. Yeah, I think in this life, we create our destiny. Yeah. We create what we want to believe.

But the question becomes, what is the motivation behind each individual creation? That's what I was trying to talk about. So you admit that because to a certain extent I Guess I believe that too, but it seems really blasphemous. No, no, no, this is not blasphemous, it is a reality. All right. Yeah.

This becomes blasphemous for people who say no, no, no, no, no. All right. But you will discover that almost everyone believes what they want to believe. Yes. And so the only thing that will change that is humility to get yourself to believe what you may not want to believe, but what honors a creator more versus someone who doesn't want to honor a creator because they don't care.

All right. Point. SO. Point. So you make the distinction between it's not something you don't want to believe and that's why it's true. Is that it? You need to rephrase that. Repeat it. Well, okay. You say that everyone believes what they want and that's a bit what I say too. As if we were invoking the truth.

Yeah. From. Give. Yeah, whatever. Physical evidence. SO. Your argument for the yeshwa perspective is actually that it's not what you want. argument for the yeshua perspective is actually that it's not what you want you humbled yourself to something you didn't want and that's why it's true I humbled myself in front of something that I was looking for I didn't know I were looking for so you wanted it well I was looking for them I want to see the truth and so I would humble myself to try to understand the nuances of the truth that is presented and see if it would hold water.

All right. Point. So this search, I think obviously someone who doesn't believe in God would be like you searched for God. Yeah. And you have God. You just get what you want, just like I get what I want. Yeah, sure, okay. Admitted, yeah. For what ? Like why? So the approach that we support is actually that this is life.

We create what we want and we are responsible for this creation. And the question is, do you want factual fiction or do you want to get closer as much factorial fiction as possible, isn't it? That's where it's a little different from simply create what you want okay point but how do you do it seems that there are evidence of people who seek the truth and arrive at the opposite of you, to a opposite perspective.

I think they are right. But is it fiction? Um, I don't know. That's why it's subjective and I'm not judging anyone because I do the same thing. All right. But what I do is what I say. Well, let's evaluate what we searched, tested, tried and searched for. All right. Point. So basically you can't say that you know that God doesn't exist.

Than metaphysically in me. I believe it. Okay, what everyone does. Is everyone's knowledge such that you believe there is an objective truth? I believe it. We always have. Yeah. This is where it happens. He has it. We don't believe it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, something has. You think it's him. You think it's God. I think so.

Now, if there's no God, I don't know what there is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because I have a label to attach to the source of truth. I have adopted this label because the prescription is the ways of this truth. Leads to a living solution that surpasses all others I have tried and tested. Yeah. That's why you think it's true because functionally Yeah.

works best. Yeah. And I haven't seen it yet. And that's why I told John Delain and I told atheists in a podcast, show me what's better. Yeah. And I will test it. And if it can prove to me that his method is superior in logic, in reason. So I will. All right. Point. So maybe what I'm trying to understand right now is that the most fundamental level of your philosophy, the one you say is the best in interviews and all that is actually subjectivity.

It's not God. At the most essential level, it's the subjective thing you're discussing, not God. You believe that God created, that God allows, and that all of God's work was to create this subjectivity and allow us to see it. Yeah, because this subjectivity is based on free will. Okay, yeah. Alright. It really helps.

All right. Because, as I would have guessed from our discussions, in fact, it was the foundation of God. But I think subjectivity is actually the deeper level that you're asserting that God created, but as created for this other person who doesn't believe in God as well. That's why it's more fundamental than even God.

In this world, because we don't see it. He doesn't show it to us. Only in this world. Just in this world and this world is speculative is that we have faith in this world. That's not all. Yeah so. We don't know. Yeah that's true. We don't know what world.

It is the knowledge that we have because we have the knowledge but the knowledge this is this world. As if it stopped there. So you're saying that's why she's... Dead. Yeah. I think your position on subjectivity is actually knowledge because it is this world. This is the tree of knowledge of good and evil to test and see what works, what doesn't, what leads to life. None of this worked.

So it wasn't until I ate from the tree of life that I realized that included faith now. It's something different. And I was able to test and explore this for myself. But I can't impose that on anyone. All right. Point. So, finally, when? You teach, you teach this faith, like when we talk about faith in your context and your philosophy, it's a faith in a specific type of God.

How ? It's faith. It's not a general faith because literally everyone follows a general faith. Like faith for you is a really specific kind of faith, right? For me, without a doubt, it comes down to one specific point. Of the existence on which I put everything. It's not in a big one. I put everything. It's not in a big one. Yeah. But I believe that because of free will and subjectivity, God is greater than people who cannot see him.

And he says, okay, what can you see of me? Oh, you're an aborigine, you can see me at this limit. All right. You see, it's how I let things adapt to other people's subjective experiences to fit his plan. Yeah, that's what's so... difficult to pin down is that your faith, your faith is this. That’s so much it. But you think that's the reason for all this? It's really hard to express. Almost all of this donation.

We speak is paradoxical because it comes from trying. To understand matter and spirit. Yes. You can't really make things stand on four legs with both. Religion tries to hold them both together. I don't believe that, you know. That's why I don't pay attention to confessions. Yeah, okay. Okay, it's heavy. Thanks for indulging in this.

No, at any time. We should let ourselves go more. Well, it helps to hear clearly that subjectivity is actually more deeper than God here in terms of this world, in terms of biblical philosophy that works in this world. It's about subjectivity. Who has free will? And this is why I promise us in my philosophy of explanation of Christianity the sixteen philosophers because they were of the same ilk, they all said the same thing.

All these Christianity the 16 philosophers because they were of the same ilk, they all said the same thing. All and. 16 were about Kierkegaard and Ostki and were not about me. Markix in there. I do it because he has a similar way of thinking although he is an atheist. But it was a similar way of thinking about things. Um, but I could be wrong about that.

And I don't think I put any points on the list, but I should have. No, I don't know. All right. Yeah. THANKS. I could talk forever about this subject. This is where talking becomes fun. It's really not... Not the rest. Everything is fine. No, it's... Damn, I want to read the chapter now, but this line is making me really nervous.

Yeah, it's a bit complicated. But I think it really validates the subjectivity thing. Yeah, it's like... We're going all out, it can be like... A deluded mind in this verse. Yeah. But does it help you understand the purpose of a material existence? The purpose of a material existence? Yeah, if only we could please God by faith.

That in material existence there must be a purpose for us without knowing it. And in material existence we do not know the metaphysical spiritual. We can't know. Yeah. So here we choose what we are going to see and do in relation to what surrounds us. Yes, yeah, yeah, and that would be part of the test of life.

Yeah, for sure. Like it seems airtight to the whole, both my experience as a person and my studies, is that purpose is like how you choose to see something. And if that's how you choose to see it, it's subjective and you create your own reality Yeah So when I meet a Mormon who says I know Joseph saw the plates and that's where you're really right Let's see where this takes you Yeah What's so strange is that if anyone believes that. Yeah.

Usually, they get into this kind of mode. Believe what you want. Like if there was no motivation to go and teach a real objective perspective, what you do. You teach what you objectively think and you believe what you want. It's a really unique combination or it's like I'm doing it because I'm waiting to see someone, but no one seems to care, I I question myself. Because I've done the work and I don't think anyone has a better way of looking at it.

But you know, if they did, they could tell me that they're just sticking to their dogma. But no one thinks they stick to what they were taught. Point, then. Yes. And you know, it's in harmony with much bigger thinkers than me, you know. Yeah. It's just not your place to speak, it's almost outside the realm of religion at this point.

I feel like it's a weird hybrid of philosophy and Christianity, there are just a few thinkers over time and history. Who made breakthroughs. Yeah. Cagard is like and he wasn't liked, you know, his writings were taken and made atheistic because people don't like Christian reason. Things.

So yeah, that's where you have a battle, a difficult battle. And the reason it's a merger of biblical Christian philosophy, of biblical philosophy, is that if it was just a philosophy, I would be no different from Card. I wanted to see if the Bible would support discoveries in the same way than what we were taught. And I think so. And that's a criticism.

It's like you really embodied the philosophy, but you wanted something and you found it. I did it. And everyone does it. Yes, they do. So, what I mean is that we have to look at the fruit of this by in relation to the scriptures okay this is something that we have not yet addressed the function evaluation is how well it works for most people it is really utilitarian it's in that sense but But Sartre is the one who said that we are condemned to be free.

And therefore linked to the subjective choice of what you pursue and what you wish to create. Is the fruit of freedom. So this is a major element that I use in my evaluation of other theories and approaches. Where is the freedom in that? Because as a subjective existentialist Christian, there must be freedom in that, because it is an integral part of free will.

Yeah. So all these factors come into play when you create this system that I created for myself. Yeah. But I feel like it's ultimately utilitarian because it's like you were saying that this is the best approach and it's not only the best for you it's like the best universal approach yeah because it will work for most people because it's based on something that you identify as the root of human nature which is the need for free will, freedom, of love. Of freedom. Love. Point. Love is the mechanism to achieve freedom.

Freedom and free will are the fundamental condition of human nature that you believe everyone needs most and the way to achieve it so that everyone gets the best and subjectivity and love. Yeah, and the problem, is that it’s a statement of mine that few people agree with. problem is that it's... One of my statements that few people agree with.

Yeah, that's the problem. The... people don't want freedom. They want to be prisoners of something. This was the argument of Sartre and Kierkegaard. Yeah. All right. It's the root. Yeah. Because... well... Well... It was just a trip through tulips. Sorry, guys. Maybe too much. No, I like the staff, but thanks for listening to me. It was just a trip through tulips. Sorry, guys, maybe way too much.

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