May 10th Yeshuan Fireside

LIVE CALL IN Fireside with Shawn and Delaney McCraney

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Gotta push through. Come on man. Okay, here we go. We're here. Welcome, welcome. How is everyone doing today? Happy Mother's Day. This is Delenie's first Mother's Day.

Hey, she became a mother over 90 days ago. And tell me, do you have any tips for young people about motherhood? Oh, highly recommended. Oh. Very heavy, but it makes it. Everything just gets better. Go ahead. That's a refreshing view on the matter. Great. It changed me in a short time. EHM, I don't know how you do it, but thank God you do it.

I'm going to fix your microphone. Sorry to bother you. Oh well. It's Mother's Day. You can go ahead. So, I can put it here because I tied my beer bottle shut. Ehm, whatever you want. I think it's good. Okay, okay. So, we are part of Yes Showings. Yes, we... .

..take calls because everyone likes to share their thoughts with us, so we thought, why not? 2-2-0-2-2-2-2. 46-186. It's Mother's Day, so you're probably celebrating it with your mother, holding hands. If you're one of our pranksters calling us, what a wimp you are. If you're not a joker, you probably have time to make a phone call. It's so bad. Oh my god, EHM. What are we talking about today, D? The Sarah is here. Happy Mother's Day, Sarah.

Happy Mother's Day, Sarah. Okay. Uhm, there were a lot of questions on YouTube and there were quite a few. We're in the middle of a major app switch, so our AI might be working Not so good at the moment, but do you have any questions from this week that you would like to ask first? I really hope that people will listen again and share last Tuesday's episode, which got to the heart of the matter about the cancer of Christian nationalism and our view on it, and the whole conversation of.

Listen from start to finish. And by the way, I just want to complain about the use of sound bites. You have to listen to the entire conversation. Before you can use a sound bite. Yes, absolutely. Yo, how are you? Corn yoga. Faint. Oh, corn yoga. That's how I read it first. Who is that? Don't know. Okay. Someone on the phone said, there are so many memes posted online saying that if you ask God for forgiveness for raping children, you will go to heaven or God's kingdom.

How do I explain this to someone who won't believe in our savior because of these claims? Oh dear, we have an unknown number. Come. You can't wait? Let's hear what they have to say. What? They call my private number, which scares me even more. How? Maybe it's someone we know. We'll see. We are adventurous.

Hello? Hello? Maybe she'll call. Gosh, things always start out a little chaotic on this show. EHM, how do you explain that to someone who doesn't want to believe in the savior because of these claims? They say, I don't want to be in a place with a child molester. Stitch quotation, stitch quotation. Then you won't be, yes.

that are not, yes. For some reason you believe that your crimes and sins are somehow more excusable than those of someone who does something absolutely horrible, like raping a child. Look, it's not as simple as, hey, I raped a kid, Jesus, forgive me, apostrophe. We need to talk about genuine repentance, about real inner reflection in your heart, about the fact that you need a savior.

And when that happens, you begin his recovery. And it is a lifelong process and the remorse and humility continues from that point on. So the idea that you just say it and it's done and everyone gets away scot-free, that anyone who comes to know God will be ashamed to stand before him, no matter what his crimes are.

Yeah, yeah, so, I just wouldn't pay attention to those kinds of arguments. Okay, here's another example about sin. This person said, Sean, you are a brave man for speaking out. A truth that undermines all religions. I wish I had heard your message earlier in my life and I am forever grateful for your program.

Quotation mark. This was in your Full Circle episode on sin. Wow. Yes, and? I don't even remember what it was about. We were talking about sin, right? That's it. Yes, Full Circle was about defending Mormons, and? I think you were talking about the real thing perspective on sin and how religion deals with it and how hormones use things like that.

Okay. Uhm, for those new to watching, what do you say briefly about sin? EHM pays through Christ and these are the sins that result from the fall of Adam. So the sins that come from our genes, our predispositions, our upbringing, our nature, our flesh, all those things, are unconditionally forgiven through the actions of Christ.

However, there is still a sin that exists for us, and that is not believing, and therefore not loving. Those are the two commandments. So the sin of the flesh is wiped away. But not believing is not. Forgiveness in this world or in the world to come, I might add, until it happens. And once it happens, it's good.

And once it happens, it's good. Okay. EHM. Okay. About defending Christian nationalism, defending my God, about the... cancer of Christian nationalism. I want to answer this question. I have to ask Jean why what Yeshua said matters, but you so easily point to almost everything mentioned in the apostolic record as being written to the bride.

Then it's, sorry, I have to start by saying that's a very unfair comment. Yes, explain why. I think it's unfair because... They actually say it themselves. Almost everything is addressed to other people. Yes, and what Christ said was addressed to other people too. And the argument is that what Christ said was not directed at us.

So Christian nationalists stop saying, you know, it's true. But you also don't just say that the entire New Testament was not written. You look at it in context and most of it isn't. Correct. But then you say, you know, it's all a matter of semantics. And when you go through it, it's complex. Yes, that's it. It is not a general rule.

The Bible isn't for everyone, you know. They want to corner you so that you can be dismissed as unimportant. Yes. In short, we teach the Bible. There are principles in the Bible that are eternal. Yes. And if Christ has come to show us how to live as God with us. And if he didn't get involved in politics, then I think that's a general principle that we should live by.

Yes. Okay, I also think that the general principle of loving neighbor, as Christ loved the church, is a general principle. Yes, you know it's in the scripture. Yes. I also say that forgiveness and patience are principles I adhere to. Have they been inspired to us? No, but in general these are principles that we act on.

So this question is just argumentative. They don't really want to see it. They just want to show, and know you what? Not to mention the reason they hear, who was that written to? You talk so much because they always quote things that are not written for us. Like that one things that people quote so often that it's always your argument because of what they say, not because that's the only argument.

It's just all we say. Why does no one ever ask what Jesus, Paul, or Peter said we should follow? Because there is a whole list of things we should follow. Yes, yes, 100%, eternal truths. EHM, I want Eternal Truths. What is that? Shadow banishment. We've basically already talked about this. Max, you should explain it better.

I don't even know, but the algorithm. We are in the darkness of the algorithm. Yes, they are literally pushing it down. You don't get to see certain things. And... You know, other platforms have shown evidence of it, like TikTok. For example, it says that they cannot show this video to people. They tell the creator that they won't show that video to people.

Wow, YouTube doesn't do that. Oh, and... Not as far as I know. If someone can explain that to me, okay, let's do it. We move on. Point. People know about Satan's short season. Yes, that's important. What is that? It is the only small reservation they have for a future return of Christ. And to put it very simply, we are in Satan's short season.

Ah. Point. Yes. Like it's coming. And the way they do that is. They add a hole and we are in that hole. Yes. Yes, and there is no gap in the writing. It's very linear and it happens the way it did with the apostles, but they add a gap because that's the only way you can reasonably say, well, he's still coming.

And that's just how men and women work to form their beliefs. And... You know, what I would really like people to understand is that I would follow it all with my heart. what I would actually like people to understand is that I would follow it all with my heart. But you know, if you haven't done the work, you don't really have a leg to stand on.

I've done the work and I'm not going to brag about it. I just researched and tested it and you can see. So I stand by what we discovered. I want to proclaim the truth. When he comes back, I want to be ready and teach that. But he doesn't. So, you know, at least give me the benefit of the doubt and test everything.

Yes. I feel like your critics are talking about it, I mean the theme is shadowbanning. The algorithm doesn't push, you said. So... Does that mean they're promoting us? Yeah, like, you know. Certain social media creators are coming to the fore. Because they play the social media game. And if you don't, then...

We are literally not seen. we don't care about our business to help we don't play the social media game we don't give things titles like it hears we do real work categorically and archiving and we don't care if anyone looks or not, so I understand that the algorithm does not direct you, I would admit that we have a We have a plan that we have done the work and that we believe that God is not directing you.

I would admit to Stone that we have a plan, namely that we have done the work and that we believe God will direct us. And if he does does, we can say, this is his merit, not ours. We use social media just so people who are interested can follow us. Point. He said, it looks like one time when Nazis were deceived. And Sarah said, somehow Satan's brief period lasted 2,000 years.

That seems quite long to me. Yes indeed. It seems like, you know, I get it. It feels terrible, but no one can. Admitting that every generation has had that feeling. There have been truly terrible times in the past. What, you know? Really terrible times. The Holocaust. I don't know what Christians say about the Holocaust.

For example, that wasn't Satan's brief period, or the plagues, or the great depression. Well, they say it was all part of the short period. Like Sarah said, it took 2,000 years. Yeah, that doesn't sound very short to me. Okay. Someone said I'm a Baptist and I know God loves everyone. And... That's the point.

Well, welcome, Baptist. EHM. Do you think Mormons go to heaven? Am I reading something wrong here? Where is that? Josh Paul. No, yes. Go ahead. Mormons? Naturally. Do I think any Jews will go to heaven? Naturally. Muslims? Yes. Buddhists? Yes. Do I think atheists will go to heaven? Yes. Because I think they are atheists because of what religion has done to them.

But I think deep in their hearts they are following the spirit of Christ and their knees will bow. Yes. Yes. Oh my god, I'm live by myself. Wow, YouTube now, I'm taking that down. How disturbing. Yeah, that's not how it should go. Sorry, guys. Ehem, yes. What I might want to comment on in response to Josh Pauw's question is that...

When people talk about hormones, I think they mean they're technically... ...connect with their religion. You always hear this and you don't think I feel like there's a theoretical reason why someone who does this and that and that wouldn't go to the New Jerusalem. Do you understand what I mean? I do, but actually I don't because it's about the heart. It's not about what you pray to.

It's in their hearts but in a way that we are not aware of. Right, but the question is, is it possible? And of course it is possible. You know, that's why that Ethiopian is sitting on his camel or something and he's wondering, what should I do? I mean, it's possible. Everything is possible. The question is, which is more likely? It is less likely for someone who rejects God and says, I hate him, to enter heaven.

That's very unlikely, yes. Says, I hate him, to enter heaven. That's very unlikely, yes. But we don't rule out the possibilities here because of the triumphant rule of Christ. Yes, that's great. Yes, it's more about the exception. Yes, if we talk about it. Yes, it's much more about the exception. What we should be talking about, EHM stone 66 to 70 AD.

Isn't this a shadow stone? Judge favorably and you will be judged favorably. Yes, that's a good way to put it. Yes, that's it. EHM. But what did you want to say about? We talked about the exception that makes the rule. It seems... My perception of the direction Christianity is heading is that it is actually opposed to that.

Yes, because it's called toxic empathy. The sin of empathy is used literally everywhere. Ehm, because you know, I don't know. Do you just want to talk about that? Because I have the feeling that you're not talking about the exceptions either. Yeah, I don't think so. Quotation mark, you're just playing devil's advocate for Christianity or something.

So, what? Yes. The problem with the way we do things for people is that we try to hit from every possible position. We don't just try to say, that's just the way it is, that's the way it has to be, because there are always exceptions. Where God is involved. So when people ask a question like, can a Mormon go to heaven? Well, then of course the answer must be yes.

Yes. Because categorically saying it's impossible is like saying you can only hit right-handed. There must be an exception. But listen, we don't really cater to the exceptions. What we are responding to is the plausibility of who goes to heaven. And they will be those whose hearts are focused on Him alone, without the interference of religion, who make sacrifices and live in love.

That's actually it. So what the answer really is, can a Mormon go to heaven if that Mormon's heart is focused on God, love and faith? Yes, that would be a better way to answer it. I can, and he tells me to make excuses for people as Christ makes excuses for us. Be an advocate and consider us fearless. Definitely feel that.

I was thinking about Nana Jelee there today. as fearless. Definitely feel that. I was thinking about that today after your lee. For some reason it made me think that giving the benefit of the doubt shows that you loves someone. And people usually think I love them.

I love my boyfriend so I give it to him benefit of the doubt. Otherwise if they're not my friend I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Otherwise, if they're not my friend, I won't give them that benefit. And that's what Christianity should be, first of all, sacrifice yourself and everyone, including the atheist you hate, give the benefit of the doubt. Hey, you're live. Hey, hi. How are you? Good.

How's it going? it with you? Who is this? I'm live now. Yes, that's right. Sorry, we're too fast. Oh, I just was watching online. I must be having a delay or something. Oh, probably a small one a delay or something. Oh, probably a little delay in streaming, but you're there now. Oh, totally fine.

Uhm, hey, I just stumbled upon this by accident, Ehm, this sounds weird on my mom's computer. Nice. But I discovered This one is Jan in Vegas. EHM, EHM, shortly after I had a bizarre liberation experience, EHM on Valentine's Day 2013. Wow. Wow, that's bizarre. And EHM, I was talking and I saw Jan and EHM, he was saying something about Mormonism. It was, well, it was a long time ago, of course, but EHM, a different, um, form, I guess, and stuff like that. And he focused on Mormon, and I learned a lot and searched a lot.

And EHM, we were going to talk about, well, he actually invited me to a discussion, EHM, online, you know, EHM, I think it was about, EHM. online, you know, EHM, I think it was about, EHM. I think it was about, I think, the doctrine that he holds, or that you hold, John, is EHM, that the. The kingdom has already come, or something like that, just as Jesus has already come.

Yes, he came and said, is that right? Yes, it is the fulfillment of the scripture. He came as he promised, within that generation, to his own to take the bride, and now we are children of that bride by faith, and have been ever since. Okay. And then denies that, let me understand it correctly, because I don't quite understand that he is not coming back, even though there is no Second Coming.

No, there is no Second Coming, because the Second Coming has occurred, as all secular historians confirm from their accounts of what happened in Jerusalem, and it coincides with Jesus, signs in Matthew 24 about what it would look like. But, what is your first name? My name is Chad, man. Hey, Chad.

The problem is that, although it is a very simple, fast, short sound is that I give you, which has been preceded by years of study, which is available is for someone who takes it seriously. But it's very difficult for people to hear it straight away, because of their culture and traditions of how he will come into our future. Oh no, you don't have to understand.

I didn't really grow up with it, I wasn't really raised with it very much. I just grew up in Catholicism, as I think a lot of people do. I was Catholic, but actually not. And as soon as I even started to feel like I was getting something out of it, I said, okay man, I'm not going to church today. You know, and I think a lot of people are like that, you know, they realize, but they throw the baby out with the bathwater. They throw away the good book with the attitude, something like that.

Yeah, I know that happens a lot, yeah, and um, that's what I did and that's what a lot of people do. So I didn't last and I never went back to it, but I had a powerful deliverance in Las Vegas where I, I guess you could say, had a meeting, but actually the Lord gave me the word first, the word. I was, as it were, locked in a cell. I had nowhere to go and the word just kept coming to me, like he was putting the word in front of me over and over again, the word, you know.

So I don't have, and I study the word every day since 2013, but I never had a clean slate, you know? Like I had a blank canvas, so when I came to the word, I didn't come to it through religion. I mean, actually, because I had let go of that, you know, I came to Christ through addiction, madness, a prison cell and despair, you know? So I didn't come to it through religion.

I had left all that stuff behind, you know, I thought, Jesus sounds cool, but if this is Jesus, then it's kind of like that scene in Indiana Jones, you know, at the end of that Holy Grail movie. I think it's the third one or something like that, where the Nazi takes the golden chalice. And in it the clay jug.

Do you know what I mean? It was that simple for me as a child. And the institution just seemed like a facade, just like you discovered through Mormonism. You just saw that something was wrong. And I think a lot of people see that, right? Yeah, yeah, so I didn't come to it through religion. I didn't come to it through religion. I didn't come to it through religion. I'm babbling a bit here, but I think what I'm saying is that when I read the word I looked blankly at the Second Coming. I thought it had already happened. The way

I read it, without any religion or anything, it was that Jesus is coming. Christ is coming and that is our hope in this ever-deteriorating, crazy world. Jesus is coming back, but the Antichrist too. So hell is already here and hell is coming, but Christ is there too, in a sense. I believe not that it has already happened, but what i what I mean is that I agree with the nuance in the teaching, namely that Jesus is here now, but that it body of Christ, that risen body, returns. God comes here when he wants, he does

what he wants, when he wants, but that resurrected body will come back. And Christ will return. You know, we disagree on that and we wanted to talk about that, but I was still like that new and young in the faith. You know, I still don't consider myself an idiot, you know, I'm just simple, man. But when I read the scripture, there's so much madness going on right now, you know, when I read the word in its purity, like Christ, it's so clear that Christ is coming again.

That God is coming back and so powerful, it's so obvious, right? Because that's how I see it today when people talk about the eleventh commandment, when it's not there, they say something like don't judge, you shall not judge, right? Well, if you have to take anything away from the word, you're right, you know, it's a false teaching, right? If you have to take verses out of the word, you're right, you know, then it's a false teaching, right? If you have to remove verses from the word, like where Jesus says, judge not, or you will be judged, okay, that's fine, right?

But then you can't take away the judgment, because it also says that Jesus said, uu, there are many verses where it says, uu, he is the his work is perfect, because all his ways are based on judgment. Judgment is by definition a positive thing, but it has become a negative thing, right? Judgment is a decision or conclusion made with care, consideration and correctness, right? That's good, Chad, but bad judgment is bad, right? Yes, yes, Chad, bad judgment is bad, right? Yes.

Chad, I completely understand you and where you are in your life right now. Yes, chat, I completely understand you and where you are in your life now. What you're saying is, yes, he'll come back and yes, this and that, and that's fine. But if we were to take on a challenge together, weighing the evidence from Scripture contextually, chat, then I think you would be selling your own opinion short, but that's my opinion.

That's my opinion, so listen, yes, that's okay, yes, you. Tawa rooster has just written that Biblical fulfillment is essential. So maybe you should you can give yourself a moment, we just got an app, it's free, and just listen to Lee 1 on Biblical fulfillment. Just listen to Lee 1 and see if it challenges you.

I don't have a smartphone, man, but I do have my mom's computer. Well, use it then. Yes, yes, yes, yes, use that, chat, and... I saw you here, I just used it, I borrowed her computer and then I saw you here. Thanks for calling, brother. Okay, man. Good to hear you. Fine. Take care of yourself, brother. Keep it up. Bye.

I love the genuine, heartfelt sincerity of people like Chad. Yes, me too. When Jesus said, judge not, it was a rhetorical, poetic device to make a point. I agree with that. And moreover, the word judge here is kro and it means not to judge. It means not condemning. And that is the big difference between those passages in Matthew 7 on 1-2.

The point is actually that... In your opinion, and that of others around us, this is the most compelling, but its consequences are more important. Yeah, to respond to this as well, and, Chad couldn't agree more, and the consequences, the consequences. Hey, you're live. Who is this? Hey, hey, I'm Max.

How are you? Hey, Max. Hey, how are you? Hey, this is a little weird, but so is Sean. Nothing personal, so I'm just curious for an opinion on something. I follow this kind of thing a bit and I'm curious to hear an opinion on something. I follow this kind of thing a lot a bit and I'm curious about Sien's view on it.

The publication of the UFO-UAP files that has took place. You may have heard something about it this past week. Yes, one of the stories is that the government has consulted with a number of pastors and told them, you must prepare your congregation for what is to come. And I'm just curious. I'm just curious what Sean thinks, you know, are they demons? Are we alone? Are we created in God's image? Or is there something else out there? God has done a little better.

What do you think? Hey Max, I have no idea. I have no interest in it, brother. I don't know anything about aliens, demons. I really don't know anything about it and everyone else seems to know about it, so I'm not the right person to ask. You do have an opinion about the existence of... of darkness, right? Oh yes.

I absolutely believe that light and dark are eternal principles and that God is eternal. He is light and his opposite is darkness. And I think darkness always will exist as long as it exists. So I think that struggle is ongoing and takes place in different ways manifests ways. If aliens are going to invade us, you know, they're always there unfriendly. Do we ever have people who bring us something like Martian bread and want to be our friend? I don't understand it at all.

Only if they need a call home, I guess. That's how it is, that's how it is. Point, Max. You said darkness is a bad thing. Then why does Genesis say that God created light, darkness, day and night and called them both good? Well, you have to remember that the ghost dwelt and hovered above the dark, chaotic mass.

And the first thing God did was say, let there be light. Four days later he created the stars, the sun, the moon and the sky. That separation, I think, was a separation of light and dark. He did not destroy the darkness, but he used the existing darkness, the absence of light, and called it night with a capital letter and day with a capital letter, d.

There are all kinds of spiritual references to it. The day star, Christ and the night as evil, but we can talk about that another time. You must read this. Which one? Here. Oh, that man made that up to go viral. He later came back and admitted that was not true pastors were informed about the USO. That's why I don't know what to believe.

Oh, really? That's new to me. That's from steam 67 AD. I mean, I don't know. Yes. Well, if steam 67 AD is to be true, then. I like your sense of humor, brother. Hey, God bless you, Sean. God bless, Delaney. Congratulations. It's going to be a wild ride the next 18 years. So thank you very much. Love, sister.

God bless you. Same for you, Max. Happy Sunday. Thank you. Once for review said, it's not a battle. It's symbiosis. Quotation mark. Oh, that's unique. I wonder what that's like. Can you explain? Yeah, it sounds like it's not a war against the two. It's a mixture of the two. Yes. I've probably never heard you talk about that, but I was just reading Genesis and the distinction between light and dark, and then the material things that we associate with light and dark that come much later, is so strange.

Yes, that's... Absolutely radical the point you're talking about. May I read further? Leopard Messiah says, hey, I'm really looking forward to reading that book of revelation, the one I ordered in April. Quote, I sent it. She sent it. I'm a little disappointed that you haven't received it yet. Actually the post office.

I saw it and she sent you extra books. Leopard Messiah. I sent you all our books. Hey, Tala Rooster. And besides, she's a friend of mine and we've known each other for a long time. And she says, how can we be alone? Heaven exists. He's not here yet. We are connected to heaven. Hebrews 1 verse 2. For God has spoken to us through his Son, through whom he also made the world.

UFOs are his. I don't know what the last sentence means. I don't know if she's wondering if that's true or if she's saying it's true. Don't know. Don't know. Tara Tawa. I don't know. Don't know. Tara Tawa. I don't know anything. All I know is that whatever it is, it really is from God. Yes, okay, and I agree.

Quotation mark, that's what I think you mean and there it is also agree. How can we be alone? Yes. It would be kind of crazy to say there aren't any. Hooray, yes, of course. Lots of books, hand them out. Do with it what you want. I'm sorry you didn't receive it. That depends on the post office, but I want the post office to continue to exist. So... Yes. Jeremiah 10 in 2 explicitly commands God's people not to fear signs in heaven, noting that while pagan nations are dismayed by heavenly portents, believers should not adopt their customs.

I agree. I agree, man. I just think it's beautiful. It's faith. We just do something. Tad calls. Well, Tad. Hello, Tad. Hey, how are you two doing? Good. How are you, Tad? Can you hear me? We hear you. Hey, pretty good. Can you hear me? Okay, yeah, good, period, good. Hey, EHM, getting straight to the point. Sean, I wanted to ask you a clarifying question.

I was responding to your last comments. comment on Christian nationalism. And I want the distinction between deontological and further explain it theologically. I think what you mainly mean is that, like I think the Leni talked about the invasion by Muslims, for example in your city.

And that as someone as you or I decide, you know what, they introduce practices and a way of life that are really harmful to us and our children and so on, that theologically a person can absolutely fight against that to create a better world for their family and children. But as long as they don't foolishly claim that Jesus or Yeshua told them to do this, um, don't fall into that mistake, but certainly do what you want deontologically from the heart and faith in Christ, and how that translates theologically is individual and subjective.

It is based on personal experiences and is not necessarily wrong. Is that the gist of what you're saying? It's absolutely right. Totally agree, brother. Well, there you have it. That's... Fine. Like this. I feel it. Okay, then. It seems that theology is for this world. Yes. Theology is not a problem. It's about recognizing that it is this world.

And for a Christian to say, you are a bad Christian because you don't fight, or you are a bad Christian because you do fight, that is a completely different discussion. Yes, and it's all based on Christ, words, my kingdom is not of this world. Right, but we are here, we have been given dominion over this world, we can choose how we live and make decisions theologically, so we are not saying don't do it.

Yes, and we are also not saying don't stand up for what is right when your heart for God tells you, I want to fight for our rights as Americans against a jihad. Okay, I'm just saying that we're just saying, please don't go to war in Christ's name and don't say that's what he expects of us, because that's his kingdom, because it's not of this world. That's it.

Okay, yeah, that makes a lot more sense to me. For some reason I felt like you were confusing those two things, like you were saying, let people walk all over you because you love them. And that's, you know, what Christ would have done. And I thought, I don't think he's saying that. And that's not what you're saying either.

Well, you, as far as I'm concerned, I wouldn't. Going to war for a lot of things that other Christian brothers and sisters would go to war for so it just depends on where you are in your faith walk so it is subjective so I mean, and that's an important part of this, that everyone should be guided by their own mind and with a heart for God and do what they think is best.

What I'm trying to say is, don't do it in his name, for Muslims were loved by him, as were the communist Chinese whom God so loved. Theologically speaking, perhaps we should go to war with the communist Chinese. And as an American, if I was old enough and recruited, I would go to war. I'm not a conscientious objector, my conscience as an American citizen would say, go.

But I wouldn't go out and say that Jesus wants me to kill Chinese people as part of his deontological ethics, because that's not part of what it means to follow him. Okay, period, yeah, good. That's much clearer now, because I mean. Yes, it would. I don't want to go too far, but guess what? Do you like the death penalty? Theologically speaking, you might just agree to that because that's just the law of the land.

And if that's what the citizens of this world have decided, then you go along with it. Or what do you think? Personally, all I can say is that I don't listen to the Old Testament. Okay, and I don't listen to the principle of turning the other cheek either. Theologically, I think of that as someone's death.

Theologically speaking, it contributes to the justification of justice in this world that person should be put to death. I have no objection to that. It's part of our laws. If you kill someone or sometimes they say you kill someone, In some states you will be sentenced to death. If you kill someone in that condition, I don't oppose the law that says you should be sentenced to death.

Understood, okay, yes, as usual. Very, very good. Well, thanks, Sean. That really makes it clear to me. I have one last question, if I may. It's a bit of an aside. and aside. When John the Baptist rebuked Herod for taking his brother's wife, that wouldn't qualify as government interference, would it? For Herod was a Jew.

Middleman, right? He was a kind of Jewish link between the Jews and the Romans government. So, yes. Would you justify John's words based on the fact that he is a religious leader rebuked, just as you gave the example of Christ Jesus setting the tables overthrew in his own temple? Yes.

He was the only one, the only difference is that Herod, one of the four Herods, was authorized by the Roman government to do what he did. And that's why I see John's death as a little more political than Jesus' cleansing of the temple. But maybe I'm wrong. But I mean, regardless of whether Herod's motives were political or not, John pointed him out as a religious Jewish leader, right? So? Yes, absolutely.

Yes, okay, that's fair. Well, good job, man. Happy Mother's Day, Delain. Thanks for the clarification. Hey Tad, Sarah says, your questions really clarified the situation. Very useful. Quotation mark. Oh, excellent. Yes, for me too. Me too. Thanks guys. See you later. Okay, can I read this, Delaney? One star. Oh, he just disappeared.

Oh, what? Wait, I'll post it. One star. This. Yes, suppose there is a planet a thousand light years away that currently has intelligent life. We wouldn't know that because we see that planet a hundred thousand years in the past. They would see us the same way. Right there. Yeah, like? Right there. Yeah, like? Carol Olsen says, a theological approach to anything, literally anything, is a terrible way to figure things out.

Figuring things out. I think it is... Of course it is. Well, unless we consider universal moral standards to be the highest good. Yes, yes, and who decides what those standards are? That's what I realized when you talked about it. The good and true is, as with Christians, the argument for Christian nationalism is.

The good is, you are a Christian, you want the good, why wouldn't you go for it? And so? If they grant the good, they make it exclusive to Christianity. Yes, they make good exclusive to Christianity. Good only exists within Christianity. There is no good out there. And I think that's the core of what we're up against fight. There is good. Yes, the good does not belong to Christians.

Still, but they think so because they have the truth. They follow Christ, God's Son. Therefore, they have the truth about what is good is. And therefore we should do what they deem right. That the only real good he commanded us to do was faith and love. So I don't know how we can consider waging war against other peoples as good. Well, that's what I mean.

There are other good things that have nothing to do with war, that are not attributed to Christian nationalism and that... can be argued in other contexts. People determine moral standards, such as... We always have. As we have always done. EHM. Yes, cultures. We'll talk about this next Tuesday. We're really going to get into the philosophical details of this whole story.

delve into philosophical details of this whole story. And I think if you are open to it, it will provide important insight into why we see things the way we do, compared to traditional Christians. And it's not just esotology. It's based on a few other concepts. We'll talk about that. EHM It's based on a few other concepts. We'll talk about that. E.H.M.

Yeah, I mean, I almost want to talk about it now, but... Don't do it, Delaney. Not even on Mother's Day. E.H.M. John publicly declared that Herod's marriage... Amadarop, Amadarop. But then Herod had him beheaded by the might of the Roman government. No one else could do that, and that was a political act.

And Jesus did not rebel against the power of the Roman government to cut off John's head, even though he had broken the moral law of the Jews. It's a good conversation. An interesting conversation. I just want to know, are we known more for what we love in this world or more for what we hate? And I think that Christ loved the world and that Christ came to save us.

Let us be known for our love. We hate war, but has God never commanded us to do so? to go to war? Old Testament. Yes, apostolic history. We do not fight against flesh and blood, but against invisible things. And how do we do that? By our faith, by our prayers, by our patience. And that is the difference between the Old and the New Testament.

We have an unknown. That's where we're going. Fake phone call, get carried away by an unknown fake phone call. Hey, you're live. Hi, how are you? Good, how are you? Okay, this is Vinnie. And what I want to know from Sean is, where do you get your authority to teach? I have no authority at all. Well, then why give Lee? Why don't you call? Why don't you call? Do you have authority? Hang on, Vinnie, later.

Wait a minute, Finnie, let it go. Before we make assumptions here, Finnie, who has the authority to teach and speak and where do they get it? The one to whom Christ gave apostolic authority. Okay, so you're establishing a line of authority that, I think, starts with Peter. Peter was the one to whom Christ gave authority, correct? Okay.

And and and so you believe, unlike Lufer and other Christians, that Peter was the first pope and that from him the apostolic authority, the papal authority, was passed on from man to man. I don't use the word pause. I say apostolic authority. Okay, so? That's right. Okay. So let me sort of trap you. No, I'm not trying to. No, no, no, no, no, Vinnie.

I'm not trying to trap you. I just want to hear where you're coming from. I'm not debating. I'm not a debater. I want to reason with you. Okay. So you said... That I do not have the authority to teach, but you do. I didn't say that. Wrong, Sean. Wait, wait, Vinnie. Vinnie. I said I asked a question.

I said, where do you get that uf from? And I said, I don't have one. I said, I don't have one. And you said, what do you do then teach? So you inferred that I had no right to inflict pain without authority, Vinnie. That's right. Okay. Stay with me for a moment. You believe that some kind of apostolic authority has been passed on, right? Yes, okay.

I want to know which institution has that authority. Can you name that attitude? Is it the Greek Orthodox Church? Is it the Russian Orthodox Church? Is it the Roman Catholic Church? I mean, who is it? The Lutheran Church. Who do you think has it, Vinnie? The Holy Roman Catholic Church? I mean, who is it? The Lutheran Church.

Who do you think has it, Vinnie? The Holy Roman Catholic Church. Okay, so, Vinnie, let me ask you this. Based on that statement, what are the fruits of the Holy Roman Catholic Church in the course of its existence? And what I want to tell you is that they have shown that their authority means nothing. See, your logic about authority means absolutely nothing.

If priests were raping boys and the Catholic churches supported the Third Reich, then listen, you have a tree full of dark, hanging bodies with that so-called authority that you value so much. It meant nothing. It doesn't mean anything. It has no impact on this world except what they have done. And that is reaping money, power and disgust. There's your authority, brother.

The Holy Roman Catholic Church, my God, it is as holy as my left ball. So, Vinnie, wake up. Okay, stop with your rhetoric. That's all I have to say, got it. Go ahead, Vinnie. I can tell you one more thing the Catholic Church has to offer and that is salvation. Yeah, okay, Vinnie, you're done with us now. You're done.

Okay. Yes, the Holy Roman Catholic Church offers salvation. I can't believe someone says that. Yeah, I can't believe anyone would say a church offers salvation and that's how the church lives. I can't believe it. It's incredible. Catholics separate their organization from paganism, mixed with Christianity, as in the book Do not call anyone on earth your father, for there is only one father, and that is heaven.

The Pope of Rome, the Holy Father, gives this cry. Totally agree, Tawa rooster. Listen, God gives authority through his word. Listen, that's what God says. The Holy Roman Catholic Church, Andrew Wilder, with a smiling face. It's not all that bad. Let me tell you something. If they are supposed to be the holy pure church, with God's authority, then it is so bad.

It is, but they all are. I'm not just talking about the Catholics. They're all bad. The Catholic Church is so bad. It is, but they all are. I'm not just talking about the Catholics. They're all bad. The Catholic Church is a mixed bag. They say that this person often stands up for it and the point is that the bride must be completely pure.

So even if there is one rapist among them. Yes, one, then. Is it a problem? Holy, pure and without blemish, otherwise she would not be qualified to be admitted. The Catholic Church as an institution cannot claim that. So a mixture, that confirms what Jesus said, a well cannot produce good and bad water.

A tree cannot produce good and bad fruit. It is either a good tree or a bad tree, based on the fruit it bears. So there is no mix. Okay, but to actually answer it, why are you talking if you have no authority? Because I speak to teach what I know, and the spirit is what affirms a person, whether they accept it or reject it.

And we say, fine. accept or reject. And we say fine. If no authority is needed for people to exist and share their opinions, right? That's crazy, isn't it? You don't give Lee as authority. You Lee teaches like a teacher, like a teacher at a university. You present information. Like me now stand before you holding the elements of communion and say, I say this so that you may take it. Yes. Then we are talking about authority.

Yes, there is salvation through us, but we don't say that, boys. Okay, well, let's discuss this then. The apostles were a bond company, he says. So, what's the point? The apostles were indeed an association. We say it cannot be an alliance. So how? No, the apostles were not a bond company. They were exactly as Jesus knew they would be, including Judas. He said, I have protected those you have given me, except for that one. And then they say, are we all bond company? And that is exactly the crux of the matter. We are all bond company. Christ has done the work. There is no authority whatsoever. There is no institution that claims to be perfect, but is actually a union that claims to hold the keys to salvation. No,

we are all bond company and we have Christ and we live subjectively. Amen. Is that correct? Oh yeah, I totally agree with you. At least, I agree in principle. I agree you agree. You are not my authority. I'm not asking about religious myths that require you to believe in an immortal being that dies. That is patently absurd.

Thanks from Idaho, we accept your opinion. You can believe in that. And I understand why you might believe that. And we don't say, hey, we're your judge. We say, let God be your judge. Do you know what we do for you, thank you? We love you. If we knew you, we would just love and accept you. And that is what matters.

We're not here to tell you to follow what we say or do or anything we have authority. We're just saying this is what we think. What do you think? Let's just leave it there disagree. We're not trying to force this on you. We're not doing a livestream to shove this down your throat. And you can look away if you don't like it. But you are welcome here. And what? I just like it.

What I like is that our hame is supportive. Darling. We are all light in a vessel. Who gave us our light? He. Who gave us a barrel? It. What is our vessel made of? From light. Jean was born with authority. That was a surprising ending sentence. But it is true. We've already talked about that. But you have no authority over others.

No. That's what's so ridiculous about authority, saying it's about someone else. Yes, like everything in Christianity, they are half-truths, as you say, the biggest falsifications where they take something real and then apply it to everyone. Amen. Him, right? According to Paul, all believers are qualified ministers of the new covenant.

Okay, very good. And we agree with Checkmate's statement. And Andrew Wilder said... His resurrection from the dead gave you authority. If all men and women are created equal, are we not equal with Christ? Quotation mark, exactly. Precisely. But this... The risen Christ is so important. We'll talk more about that later. Go ahead.

Yes, but this Catholic says the Old Testament had authority over human sin. Yes, and they atoned for that sin with the blood of bulls and goats and through tempo rituals. That was all temporary, until the last one came. I don't understand why Christians rely on the Old Testament. I don't understand. Christ has come.

Even if they don't believe in fulfillment, I don't understand how they quote the Old Testament. Because the only way they... Tithe, a Sabbath and the killing of people, is to use the laws of the Old Testament to judge. That's why someone like Jeff Durbin can say that women who have had abortions should be put to death.

It's just crazy. It's madness. Sorry, I called you Catholic and you're not. That was my mistake. Uhm, when did authority in the church end? It literally ended. With the apostles. Christ called them. They did what they were called to do and they died one by one and were not replaced. This argument, that the Old Testament had the same God and Father of mankind, is incorrect.

That's the whole story of, go ahead, Dad. Well, the Old Testament may have had a male God who acted in a more masculine way than the God of the New Testament who brought grace, truth, forgiveness and love, but it was the same God. They just had different sides. One was under the law, where he was angry and wrathful.

The other one was under grace, so... I just don't understand what Christians think the point of Christ is. He fulfilled the law of the Old Testament. The law of the Old Testament that was never kept. God acts differently because of his incarnation.

How can they say that? He, because of his incarnation, fulfilled the law then no one else could. That also applies to us. I know how, so if you believe in Christ, how then can you appeal to the law before you see it? It's anachronistic. Don't know. It hits... Nowhere. Yes, seriously. It's a bit unfair to ignore such a well-known verse. Okay. This is the verse. You mean where he says, I have not come to destroy, but to fulfill.

He did. He was a Jew. He came to his own people to be Israel, that they might fulfill the law. Not a Jota, not a Titte would be lost. Yeah, I don't know if he's calling us unfair. Oh, he calls. Jean exactly right. She placed herself in the seat of Moses to have that authority. Christ made that unnecessary.

So they claimed to preach the gospel, but they practiced the old covenant. Amen. Thank you. Look at mine church. Romans 10 verse 4. For Christ is the end of the law. Thank you, Tawa rooster. For righteousness for everyone who believes. The Greek word for end here is, tells, what purpose, meaning fulfillment. Tree. Okay, good. So okay, here it is.

Matthew, listen well, until heaven and earth pass away, not one jot, not one tittle perish in some way from the law, until all is fulfilled. We can quote the Old Testament because Jesus told us to pay attention to it. In return for. Who did he say that? Who did he say that to in Matthew 18 about 5? To you, a non-Jew? Nowadays they are wolves in sheep's clothing, the leni.

Unless I misunderstood you, I think so. He didn't misunderstand. He says that the law of the Old Testament still applies to us. That Jesus says that. But what exactly does he say? that Jesus says that. But what exactly does he say? Let us quote it, not an Jota, not a Titte shall pass from the law, until all is fulfilled.

Yes. If you don't know, Karel Olsen, we believe it is fulfilled in this so-called predation sense. Everything is fulfilled in our eyes. But can we ask ourselves, as if we are putting ourselves in the position of people who quote the New Testament? No, Jesus spoke to Jews, except when He didn't, but Paul spoke to everyone.

Even if we didn't think it was fulfilled, I don't believe it that the New Testament refers us to the Old Testament to adhere to it. It says, here is a new, greater New Testament. Er is a better law. Love everyone. Don't go to war with everyone. Absolute. It does not mean fulfillment directly, but in that verse you quote. You are the fulfillment It is addressed to those people at that time. of heaven and earth. This didn't happen.

Heaven and earth have passed away, because it is about heaven and earth under which the nation of Israel was founded, and that was the idea that heaven and earth would pass away and that there would be a new heaven and a new earth would come, led by the triumphant Christ, to whom all authority and power had been given. So you misinterpret heaven and earth. You take it literally.

It goes about their heaven and their earth. He says lol, I'm going to Surt, Jesuens, Veet. Point. That's ours website, or rather, the search engine part of our website, where you can ask questions. Let's talk about that a little bit before we close. Yes. Surt, Jesuens, Veet.

As far as I know, heaven and earth exist still. That's because you don't think like a Jew and you take it literally. Our interpretations are therefore supported by the text. But listen. Go to Surt, Jesuens, Veet. Supported by the text. But listen. Go to Surt Jesuens Veet. You can ask any question there. Any question. And you get all the documentation.

All documentation from us, in perpetuity, of everything we've ever said on the subject you're asking about. It's our content. Check it out. He says, wow, I just got turned on. This is replacement theology. Quotation mark. It is not replacement theology for beginners. No, it's not. Is your interpretation, which I doubt is supported by the text.

Okay. Believe it or not, there are perspectives on the text other than your own. This is research and it is not just our perspective. There is a lot of support. We just challenge you to do the homework we did and come up with your facts. He says thank you for the recommendation, but I prefer to stick to the text itself.

But you don't. You rely on the interpretations of others. You read Bibles fluently, Hebraeus. So what? Okay. The Jews do that too. So what? Okay. The Jews do that too. It's really hard for people to listen to us and give us the benefit of the doubt, as believers should do. Maybe it's wise to give something the benefit of the doubt.

Perhaps we should consider that we really dedicate ourselves every day to Christ, to God. Try to find out. Just test us. That's all we're saying. Just test what we said. He just needs to read the Bible with a concordance for the changes in the priesthood. It's literal. Need to read it now. Well, that's very good for you, Karl Olsen.

We just recommend that you read it with the eyes of tradition rather than with the eyes of what a Jew would think when they talk about things like heaven and earth. Not a Jota, not a Titte will pass away. As we wrap this up, ask yourself one question. Peter said at that time, the end of all things is near.

Okay. The end of all things is near. Okay. The commentators say that Christ was wrong when he said he would come back to them. And do you believe the commentators or do you believe what Christ said? We believe him. We believe Christ. Let's answer this question. He wrote it twice. So the era of the church having authority was from 33 to 70 AD.

Yes. Okay, this isn't replacement theology, so we don't have to read. I prefer to read with intelligence and skepticism, but whatever. So we have to... It's okay, let's take a look at... It's so funny, the tone. That Christians have against each other. The tone is immediately to attack, immediately to condemn and immediately to position oneself as the correct one.

Yes, and shaming someone with a different opinion. What do you mean? Oh, you're an idiot. This is your place. Maybe you should read the Bible. It's really funny how it works. Yeah, it's really funny how it works. That certainty that Christians have is what the Jews also know for sure, he killed Christ. You have the same security, you, that you have and no one else has.

And so you might think that with your certainty you might have been one of those in the crowd shouting, crucify him, because that's what comes out in us when we know the truth and no one else does. We need to conclude, we are not sure about this, we are just giving a perspective without authority. We love you. We accept your points of view, because we do not judge.

not about it. We don't know. It is between you and God. But try us kindly along the way to have. Let us say a few things that we are thinking. You know, I'm really not sorry how I talked to Vinnie. Vinnie? Me, too. I attacked Vinnie. Oh well. It gives us the creeps guys. This isn't easy.

If you've put a lot of work into it and you have answers, and people should immediately denounce everything. That's very difficult, and we're only human. So bear with us, and you, intellectual, proud, and proud, so that's you, God bless them, says Andrea Crouch. Yep, finally, that's a good one. I never scolded you. I offer you a historical post-supercessionist perspective.

Do you think we might have already thought about that? Is that possible with what you offer? I don't think you have thought about what we offer you yet. That's the difference. We have tried to take into account the things you raise. We have already considered and looked at most of it. We're saying we don't think you did that.

So, what if we roll the turn around and you try out some of the things we looked at? Or if you did, then at least you won't show it. You're not very nice about it. I would love to discuss the Palates and Ephesians with you. I just have one question to start with. To whom is it written? And let's leave it at that. Okay. Thank you all. Until next time. I love you all.

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