Epstein and Dallin Oaks

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Central Claim: McCraney uses the Harper's Index statistic on cosmetic surgery rates among LDS members in Utah (14% vs. 4% nationally) to critique a "perfection culture" within religious institutions—particularly among women—that conflates physical appearance with spiritual worthiness and divine favor. The parallel to Epstein is institutional corruption masked by respectability.

Biblical Basis: McCraney invokes a contrast between outward appearance and true devotion to God, arguing that "men with hearts for God" love natural beauty, not surgically-enhanced women. This reflects a Yeshuan emphasis on subjective, internal faith over external performance markers.

Yeshuan Perspective: The episode critiques how religious systems create false standards of perfection that women internalize, pressuring them toward self-objectification. This aligns with the Yeshuan model's rejection of institutional authority and performance-based righteousness in favor of authentic individual faith and self-governance ("becoming a leader in your own life").

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Epstein and Dallin Oaks | HOTM EPIPHANY: Episode 7

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Subtitles by the Amara.org community You got family trouble, man trouble, woman trouble, no nice human brother You're looking for a true friend or a true lover or if you've been living under cover Well, I'm coming to your town to break it all down and help you with all of this I'm looking to help you find bliss one day, but one way can't miss I'm here to tear all the walls down Doesn't matter if it's a large town or a small town Just like Joshua and the fabled walls of Jericho I'm here to tear down the institution

But you must tell seven friends You must first bring seven friends And don't be selfish and keep this all to yourself And don't eat shellfish Hate is trying to take someone else's love for yourself But I'm here to tell you that love is trying to help someone else You need to see me right away so I can fix this, ah You need to see me right away You need to see me right away so I can fix this You need to see me right about now And if you are suffering a straight sickness Or someone is blocking up all of your success

You need to see me right away so I can fix this sound sincerely yours and faith love and peace your friend Archbishop Harold Holmes Hey guys it is Delaney and Sean here on Heart of the Matter we are so excited to be with you tonight. It is February 24th, I remember. This is the one month anniversary of our new little grandbaby, Ava.

Ava, whose name happens to also be found in Yahava. Love that. Listen, we have so much to talk about tonight, but get right to the point on something. We use the title Epstein and Dallin Oaks, not as clickbaity, trying to get involved in the current trend. We are using a current, devastatingly disturbing dark story to help you see that there are parallels between the two.

to help you see that there are parallels between the two, not because we want you to see if Dallin Oaks used to write secret emails to Jeffrey Epstein. Not at all, guys. That's not our way, and we don't go to those levels. No, and don't really care. And don't care, right. Okay, so there's a few things to announce.

Yeshuans.faith is the family educational ministry that we have going it teaches the yeshuan model of subjective faith that website and app is being built out more and more every single day so go to yeshuans.faith to see what we're doing We have a leadership program for that.

Leadership program for us is not about authority. It's about becoming a leader in your own life. And that program, we are meeting for our third annual cycle of leaders on March 8th. So if you want to be in the Yeshuin Leadership Program, reach out to me, Delaney at Yeshuin.faith. If you do the leadership program, you eventually become part of our think tank, which is like our board, our consultation board.

It's really good, man. And you'll grow and you'll rub shoulders with others who have gone through it. And really good people sound all autonomous believers they don't do really everyone in different religious settings it's a different ways really great way to actually get the yeshuan approach in practice yeah bring your voice um and then tune in on sundays especially this sunday to his verse by verse teaching he's going through matthew from this yeshuan perspective and it really uh presents our perspective really well

going through one of the gospels but this week in particular is going to be really good yeah i told uh i asked delaney to make that announcement because there's a different, there's kind of two general ways to go through the scripture. You can go through as a, the words and, and you can go through as a hearing the music.

The music and the lyrics. The music and the lyrics. Right. And this Sunday's AM teaching through Matthew is going to show you how the music, I hear the music more than the words. And it will be a really good evidence as to what that amounts to when it comes to teaching. Yeah. Okay. That's great. The Sundays are Matthew verse by verse at 8 a.m.

Then Sunday schooled, which is a more topical teaching at 10 a.m then sunday schooled which is more topical teaching at 10 a.m and then firesides at 2 p.m where you can call in or chat in the youtube chat all right speaking of calling in this sun i mean march 8th not this sunday but march 8th when we have our leadership meeting the day we have our leadership meeting uh which we invite you to.

We are going to have maybe the fifth or sixth, seventh maybe visit from Rossio Christi, an apologetics group that kids from all over the place come. And they're here to reach out to the LDS because they believe they're lost and going to hell. And so their leader in this state, Aaron, he brings them and we have kind of a confrontational dialogue.

I want to be less confrontational and just more conversive this week, this March 8th. So maybe you'll tune in for that, or you can even show up, but better to tune in and we'll make that live to you. But it always a fun time awesome okay I want to talk about the Harper's Index information what's the Harper's Index there's a magazine back in the 1800s called Harper's Bazaar it's a fashion magazine and they have a typically one page thing called the Harper's Index where it reports on statistical information relative to the world.

All right. So the statistic that we have now is Brigham Young University, Utah Women's Leadership Project. There's a noted paradoxically high rate of cosmetic procedures among members and the church of jesus christ of lauderdale saints particularly in utah so key findings cited uh in this discussion are 14 percent uh of surveyed utah lds respondents have undergone major cosmetic surgery breast augmentation tummy tugs liposuction etc four percent is the national average so 14 percent in utah four percent is the national average so 14 in utah four percent

is the national average amazing 20 of lds members have undergone cosmetic enhancements so botox laser removal chemical peels um and they rate uh their second Their second is Salt Lake City is second for plastic surgeons per capita in the United States, often cited as being higher than Los Angeles. Oh, and they call Los Angeles the phony place.

Yeah, you wouldn't believe the crap you get for calling yourself a Californian in Utah. calling yourself a californian and so in utah um but the researchers suggest that the perfect culture of striving for perfection is sometimes interpreted um as having a perfect physical body in utah and wealth individuals with high levels of both wealth and religiosity were more likely to get cosmetic surgery.

Isn't that fascinating? Do you think it corresponds to the need for Mormon people and some Christian people to look perfect? Be perfect? Yeah, I think that's where it comes from. There's, especially on women, as a woman there's like I remember growing up in both churches Christian Church too there's an idea of like the pastor's wife or whatever and there's a look to it like when you're more holy you like dress a certain way and you just kind of have your life together I think is the implication your life is together when you're closer to God.

So then you look better and you're healthier. And yeah. Can I say something that's going to be really, really abrasive? I'm going to say it anyway. I don't care. I'm going to say this general statement and it may be true and it may not be, but it's true in my life. Okay. Men who like women who have had plastic surgery, they want to objectify them for sexual favors alone.

make them a toy, an inanimate, unthinking object that they can bang away on, and it makes them feel like some fleshly thing in this world that's disgusting. Any man with a heart for God loves natural beauty and natural women in every stage of their existence it is controversial to say that i don't care no but from even from our perspective because men have their proclivities and that doesn't mean they don't have a heart for god you said any man with a heart for god does x y and z and that's not necessarily true well i have a hard time believing that a man

who is really devoted to god in spirit and truth from his heart what about a man who's like a pedophile we if we will defend them that they might love god isn't it the same kind of yeah but the difference is the man who loves god who's a pedophile is broken and ashamed of his pedophilia in his heart well could that be the case for a man who loves i don't think so surgery because that is so optional to promote it in your wife to get done okay well and it tells her she can make upgrades in the physical sense instead of the

and here's another thing it's fundamental to beauty i i used to write volumes on beauty and how attraction is not beauty yeah i just saw a picture of uh taylor swift without makeup. My God, my God. Dad. No, it's true. Because she has made herself so attractive. It's difficult to see her beauty in the natural state.

If she came out that way, we would see it. So listen, attractions, Vegas, beauty are the ruins of Athens. We need, of Athens. We need, we need to get our women to see what that they're beautiful in, in aging too. I've never seen mom more beautiful than now. And she was very attractive when she was young. Yeah. I get myself in trouble. Go ahead. No, no, no. I, I fully understand.

I'm just thinking through, but I, yeah, like there's, it's a really hard thing to figure out. Cause there's a lot of talk about the empowerment of women through you, like, uh, having control of what they do to their bodies. But then there's the question of why, who's, who are you doing that? Right. Like why, who is it for? Right. Like, why do you need, they say they say they want to do it for themselves whatever but look at if you want to do it for yourself and your own self-esteem i mean mom had a breast augmentation for her own self-esteem and that i'm not against it you know not a boob job job and reduction and reduction but but the bottom line is for men to push women into that oh yeah

that's my point you want to do it you can do it and i will be supportive of whatever the individual woman wants to do yeah but i'm just trying to tell women from a man's perspective who loves god i love women for their natural beauty and not for their synthetic well yeah and that in terms of religion in a Christian Church in a Mormon Church women I would guess are 99% doing it for the male pressure that you're identifying is wrong like there's a pressure from the men to look that way, not from, or from other women,

but just a pressure externally to look that way. It's not this, I want to, you know, there's a connection between you and God when you look that way. I get that, yeah. Which is so wrong. And the motivator too is not just men, but it's the media. And you know what the media does. I'm sorry i have daughters i have love women i love beauty and what the media does to them is ridiculous so even aesthetically where a larger set of breasts might look good in clothes and be attractive yeah when it's removed it's a shite show it's it's it's it's nature in reverse yeah oh i can't take it man

i agree with you i'll just say it i'm just bringing up the other side let's see what happens if we get anybody to kick back go ahead did we wrap up with the plastic surgery yeah just one last statistic uh lds church does not have an official stance on it um but they do caution against excessive focus on appearance which i don't believe but maybe at the higher levels they do the the sort of plainness of old mormonism seems to be changing though however one in 27 one in 27 have had plastic surgery in the U.S. One in

seven have had it in Utah. That's astounding. There you go. And what does it tell the daughters of the mothers who are having this? I just, I just against it i'm sorry i don't care no i fully i don't care okay let's uh are we ready to move on that's my signal if i don't care uh yeah what's next okay well uh we have a really good friend he's a follower of the ministry among a lot of other things very smart man his name's billy and he sent me it's it's a couple paragraph text, and I want to read it to you.

It says, I believe that every person enters this world with the light of Christ. John the Apostle writes, Christ is the true light who enlightens everyone who comes into the world. He said, that light is from God. It grants a real moral awareness and inward capacity to discern good from evil. True religion does not manufacture that light.

It clarifies it. It clarifies it. It intensifies it. It trains the conscience to respond more faithfully to what God is already revealing within. False systems of belief do the opposite. They obscure the light, dull the conscience, and condition of people to outsource the discernment to structures, to outsource the discernment to structures, traditions, and leaders.

What troubles me is that many institutional churches appear to operate in some form of collective self-deception on the heels of just reading about plastic surgery in abundance in the state. Collective self-deception. Yes. That's the wrong... He says, we are living in an increasingly dark age. Almost everything we see is a half truth or a lie.

Instead of cultivating spiritually mature men and women who can discern the times, they often produce men of dependency. I genuinely believe a time may be coming, and this is what I want to talk about for a second, when many of the churches we'll see around us will collapse under the weight of their own structures, not because Christ has failed, but because institutions that drift from simplicity and obedience eventually exhaust themselves. When that happens, faith will not disappear.

It will become more honest. people will gather in homes again I see sees I see something smaller quieter and far more resilient in the terms of what we do and that's what I want to talk about here for a second all right that was a very oh he's a smart he's a smart man and he is a detective so married with children responsible so very smart yeah he's a great guy I wrote back to him and I said this parlays exactly into what we in fact it moves us into a new thing that I want to talk about with you right now and that is let me give it some preface from Adam until Moses when God gave Moses the law

and he established a Levitical priesthood through the tribe of Levi to serve in a temple from that time it is believed that every home had its own patriarch its own king and its own priest. Who was that? It was the father of the home. Okay. Very patriarchal.

And, you know, we know that Adam was the, apparently like the first priest king, uh, tasked to work and keep the garden temple that he was given. And then before the Levites, the responsibility for sacrifices and intercession fell on the head of household, like Noah and Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, all Old Testament, all under a God who is far more demonstrably patriarchal, law, warfare, bloodshed, etc. Melchizedek was a significant figure.

Job acted as mediator, offering sacrifices on behalf of his children. Jethro, Moses' father-in-law, was identified as a priest in Midian, and then the firstborn sons, okay? So, but now that fulfillment has come in the scripture, we have announced to you guys that the Yeshuahuan movement from our family our family alone and how we our family are yeshuans is going to be governed by mother and father in the home and then who are kings and queens in their own house because christ has taken the world back to the garden of eden and every every family, again, is their

own priestly kingdom. These aren't house churches. This is the way Yeshuans think that families should abide in and thrive. And I was motivated by what Billy said to bring me to this thought. And then in our family, a Yeshuan family, our model is that our leadership, our line of leadership is feminine.

It goes through the feminine line, not the masculine. Why? Well, my wife and I, we are a yeshuan family. We have three daughters. And my daughter are very involved and active in the things that Yeshuans teach and believe. And so the line goes from Mary and I, the authority in our own home, to our daughters who with their husbands have authority in their own homes.

But we teach, and others may think it's a patriarchal line in their family, but we teach that there is power in leadership through the feminine influences, not only because we have daughters, but because we believe that the Spirit of Christ is far more inclined in the feminine realms of traits rather than the masculine, overtly masculine ones that were in the Old Testament.

We also say that for 2,000 years, men have, through patriarchal strength, governed the faith. And what has it produced? Nothing good. Nothing. Nothing good. And so we are coming forth in the event of Christ being the one who's overcome all things, returned the world to the Garden of Eden, and now he reigns victoriously, like Billy said, in the hearts of every individual, we maintain that the brick and mortar should be done with, and everybody resort back to their own families as a means to practice this faith. And we have a graphic that's going to kind of talk about that. So we have Adam and Eve at the top of this graphic.

And we have, let me just read down the Adam side. We have God who is masculine. He was the father. He's called the father. He was for the law and the prophets, all male, except the prophets. They had prophetesses. He was for war and justice and wrath and division. There was death and dying. The father is the impregnator.

That's Old Testament, past 2,000 years. And patriarchy now is dead within the church. Authority over home and church was part of the patriarchy. And there were priestly patriarchal lines of authority of the Old Testament written in words of law, in material. And men test all things by the directions, by the instructions, not by feeling.

And then there's a mortal Messiah who lived a very masculine patriarchal life. And then there's institutional religion that has passed down objective faith through men. We are saying that in the age of the risen Christ, where Christ abides in the hearts of everybody, that we're in the age of Eve.

And what that means is that the feminine parts of God, not female, feminine, are now operative. That is evidenced through the Son and His traits. are now operative. That is evidence through the Son and his traits. And it's grace and truth instead of law and prophets. It's peace instead of war. It's mercy instead of justice. It's forgiveness instead of wrath. Unity instead of division.

Instead of death and dying, which is what the law brought, there's birth and living, very much part of the feminine ethic, even in our world. Women give birth, right? And where God the Father was the impregnator, Christ is the life-bearer, the same thing a woman is. And the next age is here. We're not in the Old Testament. In the next 2,000 years, we believe will be matriarchally led through feminine expressions in men and women, and that there's a shared authority over every home.

Delaney and Larry have authority over their home, and Matt and Cassidy have authority over theirs, and Mallory and Nicholas have authority over theirs. But in our ministry, as a family from Sean and Mary, we have a feminine line of leadership, line of leadership versus line of authority.

And we go by the fruit of the Spirit over the words of the law. And we test all things by that Spirit. And we worship the risen, victorious Christ, not the mortal Messiah. He didn't come to us and it's now individuals and family and the faith is entirely subjective. And I just wanted to say all that to get it out there because we are continuing to expose people to new things that come to us as they happen.

That's really amazing. I've had to like work through thoughts about like what if it doesn't actually happen like this in the future or something but i'm realizing that really what we're saying is that the the changes of the world require that faith is done this way. Right.

And even if religion continues to exist, that's not what we're talking about. Right. That masculine religion will continue to exist. And the point is that that's not even attached to God anymore. Right. Like it's like a corporation existing. Like, yeah, it exists, but that's not what God is about and what God's about and has been about since Christ.

But the world now needs in a different way is the feminine way of working, which actually is just going in a way we could put here collective and individual. going in a way we could put here collective and individual too like it goes from a corporate thing to a relational thing that's a big shift that that just how it just is the way it is whether we want it or not that's how the world is and that's a super collective uh that is a super reflective thing of masculine versus feminine because individual gives birth male or female to the things from them the collective is masculine in

war in armies in order in systems and that's a shift to reflecting the masculine to the feminine because a woman only brings forth life herself there's no collective bringing forth of life and that's why christ himself came and gave birth to this new this is listening to the uh music of the spirit rather than the lyrics but it is what we are saying is the shift that should happen and it will happen and is happening.

It's going to happen. That's the thing. It's like, it's not even us trying to make it happen. It's like, we're naming what's going to be happening because of the way the world is because of what we have learned about God. Right. I maintain because we talk about Mormonism here that soon you're going to see the Mormon church give the full priesthood to women because they know that is what's going to be necessary to shake everything up enough for people to go, oh, polygamy, big deal. We now, you know.

big deal we now you know so that's why i wanted to talk about it because we're saying uh listen if you guys want to even survive you should follow our lead on this yeah so there's kind of two things going on here there's a shift to the matriarchal in the world that that's also going on in our family in a certain way but then there's also the house church thing right that's a like you talked about it but that was really interesting to me that thinking about church now being your home like that that's actually what church is yeah and that's where children

really learn yeah and like making your family people that you like fellowship your congregants yeah like like that is how we change the world yes by focusing the focus on the family i mean that's a it's there's horrible but it's true yeah like it's being used in all the most backward ways like everything we do is right up against the worst version of it at the same time but that's why it's because they're wielding half truths that's right the bad ends but it is half true yeah the family being and when we say that we're not talking about house churches

like people today oh we need to start the house and everybody come to our house no and and what makes it unique for our in our explanation of it is yeshuans like sean and mary mccraney we have set it up this way because of the way our family's been given but another yeshuan fam couple could do it more with more uh patriarchy if they have a bunch of boys or they can do it any way they want because we are all standing on one thing and that's faith and love yes in christ yeah we are not standing upon anything else so it is possible for this to exist in communities of yeshuans and everybody just

accept each other for what they're there can be yeshuans who are a gay couple yeah yeah it doesn't have to be this it doesn't have to be this man woman thing that's my point it's masculine and feminine yeah and it's it's loving the people closest to you that you should love it's like this these kind of things that's right really at play and since and what she's saying I just want to remind you guys I wrote this in my journal a while ago that if someone really wants to know the true character and traits of another person

talk to their children you know don't go to their business partners don't go to their friends the golf guy guys on the golf course, their sister friends that go to lunch with them. She was my best friend and no, go to their children. And if their children are messed up, then maybe wonder about the kind of job that they the reputation of the child speaking, maybe it's not so great, but go to the children to hear what they say about the parents, because they have seen the parents, if they're close, in every way,

shape, and form, and if they've been raised right, they'll be honest. They won't lie if their parents were good parents and raised them to tell the truth. So if you have a pastor, go to their children and talk to their children about the pastor and the adult children, especially. Well, my dad. Yeah. Adult. That's a big caveat.

Yeah. Oh yeah. I'm sorry. Sorry. Adult children. Children go through all sorts of feelings. Yeah. No, no, no. About their parents. And not teenagers either. They're in rebellion. I'm talking about go to their adult children and hear what they have to say And if you went to my three daughters, they would tell you the god-awful truth And the the god-awful truth. Yeah, I got good true side.

That's what you want it to vet somebody Yeah All right, definitely All right. Definitely. All right. So. Okay. So transition time. Why not? Into the new. Into the new covenant. Epstein and Dallin Oaks. Don't like the title, but had to use it. Just making it clear. Yep. This is not a release of Epstein files. It's not even talking about them it's talking about the real point as we've been um talking about the mormon church the where their efforts lie in this world the two trees all these sorts of things there might be a connection between these two individuals yeah so so Delaney's going to show you a graphic and what we're doing

is we have said uh Mormonism is good but it's not true okay and that's the way to distinguish it I hope that little quip goes universal it's good but it's not true all right and why is it good because it is a product of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, which God told Adam and Eve, it will lead to death if you eat of it.

So Mormonism is good, but it will lead to death because it's not true. Well, who's true? Christ is true alone. No temples, no priesthood, no intermediaries. Christ is the way, truth, and the life. He's true. Okay, so we have the knowledge from people who eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

We have good and we have evil, and we're using Epstein's model for life to represent the evil in this world, the dark, predatory evil, and then we're using the Mormon model as the model of good. And then let's just cover some categories on how they are really no different from each other because they come from the same tree.

Because and just a reminder, this is opposed to the tree of life, right? There's this tree of knowledge of good and evil, and there's a tree of life. Tree of life is Christ. It's neither good nor evil and there's the tree of life tree of life is christ it's neither good nor evil it's it's everything it's true life abiding truth and there's good knowledge of good and evil we've done a lot of talking about this in previous episodes so as of this world uh as of this world right so good things that appear like they might be true fall in the same category as evil things that might appear true

to someone else or whatever so and we're constantly trying to say oh but they do good they're good they're good that is not how to assess things in this world from the christian point of view that's the main argument for the lds is that they're good that's right so how do uh the lds How do the LDS and Jeffrey Epstein fall on the same tree? So the first thing that they both do is they give generously.

Okay. Their motive for giving, they all have strings attached to their giving. There's a spirit of that giving. That is not the giving that is described by Paul in 1 Corinthians 13. It is a conditional giving. It has strings attached to it, and it's always conditional. Did I just say that? So know that. Epstein gave millions of dollars.

The Mormon Church, I see them promote the millions that they give in food to this and to the... Just look through it, you guys. Look through the motive, the strings, the conditions, and the spirit of the giving, whether from the good side of the Mormon model or the Epstein side, okay? Second one, They play by rules, but those rules are not perfectly kept.

We looked at the LDS investment policies where they got caught by the SEC a few years back, fined. They paid like six millions in fines, like a drop in the hat. And it was just left behind. There's acceptable rules and there's unacceptable rules to break. Yeah. You're talking about like civil law. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. They will all manipulate and use those laws to their advantage and manipulation. That's part of this world, right? You have to kind of do that with your IRS and your taxes. We all do it too. But as a corporation representing Christ, come on, come on. In the name of truth. In the name of truth. In the name of Christ.

You're just doing good stuff. Yeah. And then some evil stuff too. And of course, Epstein, I mean, his rules were, I'm going to take videotapes of the world's biggest leaders secretly with underage girls, and I'm going to blackmail you to do my will. You know, and that's how a real sinister, dark Machiavellian empire runs itself.

Mormonism, not so different at the highest echelons. Okay, they present themselves. Look at them. Look at the pictures of everybody in Einstein's, in Epstein's pictures. And look at the Mormons. They're all well-dressed. They all look like respectable citizens. You don't have any hippies. They come off as that.

They're respected in the world. Respected? This is the same fruit of the same tree. They just operate in different ways. And they both are idolatrous. Epstein, he idolized what? Girls, sex, drugs, whatever it is he did. Money. What does the Mormon church idolize? They idolize their prophet. They idolize their temple.

They idolize the church. Because when you say, I serve the church, Mormons believe they're saying, I serve God. And you're not not which is the most explicit form of idolatry possible because you're using god's name at least epstein didn't care about god yeah right yeah so you can now see where the most sinister side of stuff lies yeah which one's actually on the good which one's not saying jeffrey epstein's on the good side but you want to see real evil i mean epstein is just like sexual depravity mormonism is using god's name to build

an empire on lies and bondage i personally have more uh problem with the mormon model than the epstein model as much trouble as that's going to get us in. No, I mean, the Epstein model is reprehensible, but it doesn't claim to not be of this world. Right. It's of this world and they know it and they at least own it. Yeah.

Mormons, you're of this world too, but you don't claim that. That's right. You say you're not and it's not fair. You wrap yourself in robes that are of this world and you act like they're robes of holiness. It's sick. And I'm sorry you guys get mad at me and you say you hate a Mormon people. No, I love Mormon people. All these times we're saying Mormons, it's leadership and institution.

Absolutely. Thank you, Delaney, for that clarification. Absolutely. Thank you, Delaney, for that clarification. In the end, they put themselves, their empire wants first. Epstein always, everything was about him. Come to the island, come to the island so I can get pictures of you so I can use them for my own benefit.

I want to help bridge this deal. Pay me 25 million. I'll do it. Well, the Mormon church is no different in that they always put the church first. No individual means anything in the Mormon church if it threatens their existence or success. Nobody. It's always the empire. That was the same as the Third Reich.

It's the same as communism. It's the same with Cuban communism. Everything is the cause. All right. And then we go to the scripture just to wrap this up. And John says it best, all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes and the pride of life is not of the Father, but is of this world. Okay, that's a clear delineation of what is in this world in those ways is here and now.

It has nothing to do with God. Okay, so how are the Mormons full of the lust of the flesh? Well, first of all, that flesh is not carnality in the terms of a sexual sense, overtly wrong and vile like Epstein did. But we just read that they're the biggest purveyors of plastic surgery.

Where's that coming from? Yeah. They're all of the same source. All of the same source. It comes from the same blood source in both of them because it's from the same tree. So Mormons have a great lust for the flesh. You want to find excitement in the ward have them at the ward things someone say you should taste the new ice cream parlor down the street they go bonkers they can't they go nuts over the lust of their flesh for the things of this world they love a new song that doesn't have swear words and isn't too dark they love a new dance they love anything that is of the flesh as long as it's not dark okay

and then the lust of the eyes look at their homes look at their cars look at their presentation and look to see who's cast out from them most quickly those who don't fit the models the best they're poor they are unattractive they're not dressed well they don't have money they haven't traveled they are also not the ones that get the jobs so they are even pushed further down that thing where obviously the uh the lust of the eyes and epstein's was ubiquitous you see this is the effect i have on women i'm a mother she is a new mother with a baby that is

just coming to life doesn't have to do with and then we have the ultimate one because the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes are permissible by god in this world because of what it's what drives us to achieve okay but the final one is the big one and it is uh the pride of life the pride and let me tell you something epstein uh lived on the pride. And let me tell you something. Epstein lived on the pride.

Mormons thrive on the pride of life. It's them having the truth, being the only true church, them having the wealth, being able to say, look at our fruit. They are the pride. We have a prophet. He was a heart surgeon. Our new prophet was an attorney. All of it is pride of life, the antithesis of what Jesus was.

And what does it do? It all leads to death. It all leads to death, not because it doesn't work here and now, and not that God doesn't allow it for us here and now in many ways but it does not in any way connect us to what is in his realm the realm of the father any comments or questions before you fall asleep on me no no it makes sense all right well i don't have anything more how long have we gone delaney we are at 40 minutes that's what we went on last time i think that's a good amount of time all right okay watch matthew

this sunday on the uh yeshuans channel on youtube yeshuans and heart of the matter are two channels it's y-e-s-h-u-a-n-s go to yeshuans.faith and just take a look at it last thing i'll say is that open call for engagement we want to start um branching out putting this formed thing that we've made into uh scrutiny with other ways of viewing the world and getting them into conversation so if you know anyone that would be interested in talking to him or i if you want that for some reason um we're willing

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