February 22nd, 2026 Fireside

LIVE CALL IN February 22nd Fireside with Shawn and Delaney McCraney

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We are hopefully live and hopefully you're seeing us. Hopefully we're live. We're going to see if this is picking up our sound in a second. Testing, testing. All right, guys. Hey, Delaney. There's sound. I'm seeing it right on YouTube. We are. And it's not echoing. All right. Delaney is always making advances. All right.

Thanks, guys, for always being patient. We're here. You can call us us 220-222-4686. You can text that same number and you can live chat and you should be able to see the live chat here now on the side when you say something, which no one has yet. Amazing, Delaney. Great job. And Jeff is here. Hey there, Jeff.

Welcome, Jeff. There we go. Hey, by the way, this next Sunday, March 8th, we are going to do our fireside by inviting the fireside viewers to join us for a meeting with Ratio Christie students coming in from out of state to ask questions about reaching out to the lds so uh join us we won't be having a standard uh call-in show but we will have an ability i think for you guys to call in or ask online questions of the audience of 25 college-age students who have come to Utah in the name of Jesus to proselytize.

That is in two Sundays, March 8th. That's on March 8th. That's right, two Sundays. Forgive me, forgive me. Okay. That is going to be good. Do you know if it's a different group this time? There'll be a different group. Same adult leaders, unfortunately, except for Aaron is a cool guy. But they have some adult leaders who come here and all they do is talk and look at me and just go.

Oh my gosh. I can't stand them. They get up and stand and they sit on the back row and they come back every time they do and they show their indifference to everything i'm saying with their body language yeah and i think this time i'm gonna say if you're an adult and you've heard me before and you don't agree with me yeah don't convey your disdain with your body language like why did they come to show disdain yeah I guess so okay um all right what is new in Sean world oh lots going on uh we are of course oh by the way you might want to tune in

to the Matthew verse by verse uh online the channel or live next week march 1st because it is going to be a really unique teaching that blew my mind as i worked on it yesterday this is on the yeshuans channel i'm writing it here on matthew verse by verse platform um the yeshu's platform channel on youtube yeah um all right that's new yeah we've made some updates on the yeshwin's website that we've added like a lot of things on the front end that hopefully make us more clear we've really defined more and more what we're doing. Tell us about it. First off, it's very clear that Yeshuans is a family-run

ministry presenting subjective faith in the age after material religion. And that is, and we call it the Yeshuan model of subjective faith. And the Yeshuan model is substantiated by the four appeals, the logos, the pathos, the ethos, and the kairos. These are ways of structuring an argument. Logos being the biblical fulfillment.

being the biblical fulfillment, ethos being the four L's and the four traits that Sean teaches are what the faith is about today, pathos being religious deconstruction and kairos being applying it in the age today and how to specifically in our age redirect religion is the word I'm trying to use excellent categorization and on that we have put on the website an open call for engagement so we really want to start getting into conversation with people now that it's really defined what we do at yeshuans and especially sean with serious theologians or schools or what have you people who have

um done work of their own in whatever capacity and are serious about it and are willing to hear us out. We want to put the Yeshuin's perspective into context and scrutiny more than just being our own little echo chamber now. Particularly interested in colleges, universities, speaking engagements for theology schools or any group of believers who are willing to hear question dialogue and not debate, not argue. I'm not interested in arguing our points.

I'm introducing, we are introduced, we are interested in sharing and explaining how we are different, why we are different, and what we offer to the world of Christianity. We are, but you are too. I, it's not a problem for you to say I. I don't like when people say I. Okay. So, so where are your calls? Where are your, come on, man.

Where are your thoughts, people? Where are your thoughts, interest insights? We're dying on the vine. We need you guys to thrive. All right. What do we want to talk about Dell while we wait? Okay. There's a few comments. Okay, there's a few comments. It's a slower week. And I'm going to pull them up here. Oh, most recently just now where do I get those specs, Sean, someone likes your glasses.

these sir if you're looking man these are ray bands and i've worn this style for probably 10 years uh i don't know if they even sell them anymore and you have to twist the optometrist arms to fit their lenses to this style so uh if you want to try to get them you can i don't know what model they are but they're ray bands and you have to really push to say you can fit lenses come on and then they'll finally do it uh robert would ridgeway i want you in every church in this southern bible bell i agree thanks robert um get us out there to speak at one of your churches where you know the pastor. Someone else said on a recent clip, I love Heart of the Matter 20-year fan here.

We have some, we get a lot of comments on clips, and I want to just tell y'all that we're changing direction on social media. Do you want to say? Tell them what it's about. Well, we're just going to get less noisy and more quiet. And the content we make is rather than being informative, we'll be more demonstrative of the spirit and loving because we have enough people correcting each other on social media.

And we have enough content on our platform that does that, that we don't need to chop it up and shove it down your throat. So we're switching that direction. We'll get less comments probably to talk about on this channel for that reason but and what that's going to consist of just because you guys are the audience that listen probably more than anything else um i my face is all over it and i really you know i'm going to be misunderstood because of my approach i'm going to be uh diminished because of my age and

appearance the younger generation isn't going to really listen to me. They're just going to, you know, just pass by. And then our enemies are just going to use it to mock. So we thought, well, you know, what's the side that we want to show about our ministry that we want people to understand? And that's going to be embodied by Delaney.

And that's going to be embodied by her beautiful little face. And Delaney is a very soft-spoken person in life. She's not loud. I don't know why, because I think when she was born, she was loud. But she had to train that out of herself because culture and society beat it out of her as well as her sisters and maybe even her parents. But she's a very soft-spoken girl and shy.

And so we're going to have her just do close-ups on her face, looking at the camera and talking to the audience in her way and invite them. And then our logo, yeshuans.faith will come up. And that's all it's going to be against these screaming voices and everybody telling you how to be what to do she's going to be a voice of peace and encouragement and that's going to be what you're going to see on social media from us for the next year or two to come yeah thank you for the compliments and for the trust um if anyone has thoughts share them but let's read uh robert i'm part of a church

of god prophecy church the younger generation will listen the older members are not willing to let go of tradition i've had questions for years i got the answers from the teachings through the yeshuans app oh that's so nice of you, Robert. I'm glad we could help. Love to meet a brother in the faith and hope you and your family out there is greatly blessed.

I think Robert has five or six children. Thanks so much. It means a lot. And few and far between the people that have taken the time to really uh consider the content and yeah um the younger generation wants to know why exactly yeah they want to know why they don't want to know what yeah and uh yeah and the whys are not sufficient in our world anymore that's been passed down yeah they just don't work it's been a really interesting just to because we don't have tons of traffic here uh six children he says um that's incredible

yeah i have one new one and it's really hard robert really quickly while delaney's talking will you tell us the age span yes tell us the span of your children if he says all under six oh my lordy um what was i saying oh it's been i've just been thinking a lot lately about how hard it's your work has been fought for over these years and how much things have changed over the duration of the content that you've made you've watched religion the religion global religion change to the direction that you were asking for yeah at the start of your work. And now it's like, luckily, not luckily,

but like you have kept going. So there's like more that you have to offer. I think a lot of people would be left floundering right now if it wasn't, you know, because it's like, maybe. But yeah, it's really interesting to like, see the predictions come true and now we're ready. We're ready for the attention because there's an answer, but it's really hard to get out there.

Yeah. And what I like the word she said, because, uh, they are, they are not revelations from God. They're just examining the biblical philosophies that god has given comparing them to what the church has done and predicting just based off cultural models the direction that we're headed and we saw it 20 years ago and it's happening now yeah yeah but no one it's like really hard because hard because I don't think too many people have a way forward.

No. They don't know what to do. Everyone knows the problem. Yeah. And we're spinning in the problem. Yeah. No one's giving an answer. I think that's what we're doing different. Trying. And we have a reason why there's a problem. All right. All right. Jeff, you're on the line hey how's it going good hang on we actually have another call coming in so hold on one moment rains it pours i guess so go ahead go ahead jeff sure hey i didn't want to necessarily put you on the hot seat with something you're not expecting, but I was wanting to ask if we're still planning to do anything with a united front.

I noticed that the interviews, I can't find them on the site right now. I went to go back and look for them and they seem to be missing from there and i was hoping we were going to do more with that so curious what your thoughts were definitely a mistake that they're not there and a oversight as i've probably just updated something and they went away um but wait i'm gonna look that up right now to make sure yeah while she's looking at that i don't know why they're not there.

I'm so sorry. She'll put them back up because that's definitely something we're very interested in. Yeah. A hundred percent. Especially with your involvement, Jeff, and anybody else who wants to be involved with us in that approach. Yeah. I am. All right. I'm like tying up loose ends on things that I wanted to get done at the end of last year that a lot of life circumstances gotten away from.

But a united front is a way that I want to move forward. And I was going to bring up actually conferences with you this year if we were planning to do that. But yes, Jeff. Delaney's heading this stuff up, Jeff. And she's got so many plates spinning but I'm glad you remind us because that's important to us yeah no yeah I understand and I was just I'm looking forward to whenever we get a chance to do our next conversation and follow up with what we did last time and I think it's a good thing we have going there so I just wanted to make sure that was

still on the horizon so thanks brother you know what um yeah yeah i'll get back with you jeff thank you for the call for the note absolutely and i'll and i'll let you get to the other caller for now i just uh i knew you didn't have any calls at the moment thank you i figured i would just call in with something at least thank you for helping us all right thanks jeff see you jeff yeah love you bro all right catch you guys later okay bye-bye he's such a nice man he is i'm going to call back that other person and see if they're able to he's called we have a comment from lindsay lindsay

jr over there in the hula in islands loving what you guys do hey you're on live sorry lindsey oh it's lindsey no oh am i on you're on sorry about that oh hey oh i heard lindsey i was like i'm not i'm not lindsey but um who's this basically oh this is like do i need to wait in line for lindsey to go first or can i go or no sorry sorry. We were reading Lindsay's comment.

But go ahead, Blake. You're on live. Oh, okay. Is a hot dog a sandwich? Yes or no? Explain. Is this Steve? It's not Steve. I actually almost thought... thought it was going to say the same thing. Nice. He, uh, we got prank call on our two person live stream. You really got us. My God. It's pathetic. I'm sorry. A hot dog is not a sandwich. It's a hot dog.

A sandwich or two pieces of flat bread with contents between them. You could say, say well a hot dog is but the hot dog bread is connected at the base of the bun so you these guys they used to plague us when we were on tv i it's like a musty clam and i got that yeah used to call and call me a musty clam for every week we had someone do it it's like does anyone know how sad it is that they spend their time doing that I don't know do they know that that's really sad well when I was 13 I didn't think it was sad I guess but when you're 20 30.

okay all right now on to talking about I rushed out for a hot dog. Yeah. Sorry, Jeff. Robert Ridgway says, spinning and hiding the problem is what I have witnessed relative to Christians and evangelicals in their institutions talking to kids. And the list, let's play a little game online for waiting for calls and content.

Del i'm gonna say a thing that the churches are ridiculous they have a ridiculous stance on and then you give one first one i'm gonna give is that uh it is a worldwide flood and every animal on the in the earth uh in terms of species was put on that ark. Oh my gosh. And what were some theories that they had to shrink the animals down? They shrunk the dinosaurs down to be this big so that they could manage them. And then, you know, well, what, what, how did they do that? Well, the, the ultimate end is God can do anything.

If that's the case why did he have noah spend 120 years building a damn ark when he could have just poofed one into existence put all the animals in there so i don't know why we use the logic of god can do anything when it becomes a difficulty but he has us do all sorts of things along the way bottom line there was a limited number of animals they were to that great basin uh the defecation and the food those animals needed there is no way they could hold every species of animal in the world yeah yeah that is probably the most is that a big one

i think it has to be just oh, there's so many others, though. But there are. I mean, not to get too serious, but the fact that he's created people to just burn in hell forever is kind of a weird one to me. Oh, yeah. The burning in hell forever is a big, total mind screw. It has, oh my gosh, it's so bad. It's, yeah.

And it's at the essence of, you know, a red devil with horns is in movies because of the way that Christianity is made hell. And yeah. Such a mistake. Jeff Day says Noah had them in pokeballs and had to chuck the kangaroos all the way to Australia after landing. I don't think Sean knows what a pokeball is. I have no idea.

Is it a food? No, it's from Pokemon. Poke is a food. So that wasn't a bad guess. It wasn't. No, you're fine. A pokeball. What is it? It it's a game i don't even know pokemon is like a game and show you don't even know what a pokeball is either i know what it is but i don't know it's magical powers but i know it has its stores in it and you open it and things come out so oh that makes sense yeah and chuck all the kangaroos that's the thing australia out there this island it's kangaroos yeah how i mean literally i believe there are christians who said they swam

i have a really hard time getting my head around adam and eve being the first people but i know that's probably a little more justified than the noah's ark or i don't know i mean at least in terms of the narrative, it is. Yeah, that's a good one. Eternal punishment is a good one. The Trinity, I'm sorry, is a good one.

It's just like every human got together and decided to throw in what needed to be said to make this God make sense. Not to mention all the practices of all the baptism and sacrament and the robes and all the stuff that everyone does yeah the Mormons saying if you don't pay your tithing you'll be burnt it's fire insurance paying tithing is fire insurance meaning you won't be burned at jesus return oh my gosh so bad okay well i have a few questions from the week that we can get to um a clip on spiritual darwinism in the lds record keeping we get this comment a lot a

little accuracy and a lot of fluff like they think we're using too many words where it's like, Hey, it's a clip from a, from a longer show, but anyway, a little accuracy and a lot of fluff. Yeah. We care about one another. We do meet our bishops and others to discuss where we are in life.

What's bringing us closer to God and what's pulling us away a lot like other religions and faith communities do. Notes are not really a thing. They are not taken except for formal things like do you want to serve a mission do you have health issues formal counsels in the case of serious events that might jeopardize your membership it is uh is it to produce conformed little widget like people yeah no if you want to interpret it that way that's you're right but 40 years in has told me nah we just want our people to go closer to jesus feel the eternal worth and live a life in harmony with god's

teachings yeah i lived 40 years in it and forgot more than you are talking about brother or sister so you are just slanted you're biasing the content they absolutely use their records to monitor and judge they want people all being the same hence why they always used to used to wear white shirts and ties and dresses why they had a conformed grooming standard and style don't talk about them being so free they create widgets and they create mormon widgets and i wish you would talk to us straight and call in so we can uh put the facts out on the table because you're

full of it you are absolutely full of it i get on across social media platforms there were a lot of comments that were like that's not true they don't keep records they don't have records it's like are you kidding the mormon church doesn't have records like Like what of all the things to say aren't true.

Go online and look up the strengthening the members movement and how they have their own policy. They have the whole thing. Okay. On another clip about how Christianity is just Mormonism white. Yeah. A couple things on like sign an allegiance to a pastor. What church does that? Or like sign allegiance to a pastor.

I think you say that in the clip, like what church does that? And someone else on the same clip is like, don't do a church like that. Find a normal church with normal people. If they try to make you sign paperwork for money and allegiance, tell them to get wrecked and leave, go find a normal church. I agree with that. Yeah.

But in terms of signing a document toward allegiance to the teachings of the pastor at the church, I can think of a church that here in Utah is called The Rock, and they used to do that. They would do that with their worship leaders and band members. They had to sign a conformity of behavior agreement and to represent the teachings of The Rock.

So there's one example in hundreds of thousands. So don't say it doesn't happen. Robert Ridgway wrote, the preacher at my church preached on tithes last week and the importance of it in our lives now and then went on to talk about the liberty we have in Christ. I almost laughed out loud. Amen. It's a joke. I'm sorry. That's a soapbox of mine.

Trust God in all you do. Trust him, trust him, but pay tithes, but pay tithes so that we can meet our needs here in the church. You know, trust him. Why don't you trust him? Pastor Jeff, Poppy day, Jeff day, Poppy, Jeff day, Poppy.

I've definitely been in those records and been on the receiving end of action taken because of them a couple times it pervades the entire system even missionary companions keep records yes thank you jeff day they keep i'm not saying all the records are diabolical but if you're diabolical you'd be in trouble day poppy says not that anyone should fear record keeping if their dealings are all honest exactly right um you two two two three three i eventually left mormonism and all the others can't fully trust any of it all it did was cause problems and more questioning, stress, you name it. Amen. You shouldn't trust any of it.

And if God hasn't said that innumerable times in his text, it's you don't trust anything before him. Yeah. I'm curious for Robert Ridgway here that, um like he's clearly going to a church where a preacher is preaching tithes and you also believe in fulfillment like you're the type of person exactly you're like a yeshuan you're exactly what we're talking about where you're out there like doing something with it in religion i also get this commenter that's saying i can't trust any of it i can't't go to any of it. Mormonism does that to you. But like,

I'm curious, Robert, chime in on how you're working on that, because that's what we're trying to implement here. And we don't have a lot of hands-on experience of being in a church ourselves anymore. That's unfolding for us because we haven't been to church in decades yeah and i it's kind of like i kind of wish i had more advice or like concrete examples on how to start implementing this yeah but we should uh bring sarah young on sometime because she just checked my church and she can give us an updated version on what's still happening in them.

She has the horror stories. We should do that. Okay, keeping it going. While she's doing that, I got cut off saying hello to Lindsay Lindsay. Yes, hi Lindsay. And over there on the big island. And we wish you blessings blessings our kind-hearted uh brother i am in the trenches i have to go slowly with it good smart yeah go slowly with it that's what machiavelli taught to cite a diabolical resource there's two ways to do something you can go in and change everything at once and create all kinds of enemies, or you go at it slowly and gently introduce integration. And I think the

latter is wisdom. So thanks, Robert. That was to Lindsay, wasn't it? No, the first was to Lindsay, and then I'm in the trenches I have to go see. Ancient Magi commented on your video and said oh you want religion do you? Do you know yeah he said and they said the guy that made the video will understand what I'm saying.

What does that mean? It's from the Mormon temple ceremony where they actually back in the day had satan come up to adam and eve in the garden and he talks to him and adam says we are looking for further light and truth and the saint says oh you want religion do you and he introduces to them a protestant pastor in the temple film who comes in and he describes god and yanni torna mormon said we don't pick on anybody they fully picked on everybody oh yeah they forget all that in their modern day we're so loving and cool and hip

it has been anti everybody but them forever until the last 15 years yeah that is insane yeah like people today who say they're innocent which is there's a big push for Mormons to present themselves as accepting of all people right now. Of course. Huge. But they call themselves the one true church. Like that's what I grew up with that.

Like that's not even in your generation. That's mine. I'm like the only true church. Yeah. Which that's what Christians say too for that. Like that's what's so backward is I scoffed at the Mormons when we came out for that.

But all churches say that for that like that's what's so backward is i i scoffed at the mormons when we came out for that but all churches say that they do that so it's not the mormons do it yeah times 10 yeah so let's role play you be the mormon okay and you just give me a pitch about how you're so loving and open and love every and every everybody's acceptable we're so loving and open and everybody's acceptable i'm a mormon everybody says everybody on this earth are they uh loved unconditionally by god the answer she says yes the answer is no yeah okay and uh do you have to be mormon in order to get

into the kingdom of heaven yes well there's different levels yeah no you can't get into the kingdom of heaven any any way unless you are baptized by a mormon with the proper priesthood authorities that's still true they say no they're lying if it's true if they say yes then they're not accepting okay do you believe that catholics are just as good as baptists if they say yes it's a personal opinion, but their church says no.

So anything they say, anything, can you get into the temple as someone who's loving and accepting? Can a homosexual do this? Can someone who smokes cigarettes or drinks coffee do anything with your loving and accepting? No, no, no. no no they haven't changed anything they're liars that's it i cannot stand it uh oh you want to do i'll have preachers here presently that's so insane someone should make a video about that robert i'm a full-on mccraney i saw how i want to help you in any way i can i love you brother oh no i might have to delete that comment i love you i but we're scared

of yeah people always thinking that that's what we want i'm friends with the former mormon bishop i have pissed him off really bad at times i bet you have jeff day says it's such a contradiction they used to try to distinguish and separate themselves from all of christendom and now they tried to so hard to fit in with the ones they used to clearly label as led of satan jeff is a former latter-day saint he's speaking the absolute truth and that today's cultural approach is a lie all right yeah it's just a freaking joke um

yeah it's just a freaking joke um this is when trying to figure everything out goes too far said andy four seven four five six on our last fireside sean you need the catholic church now go talk to a priest the second you read this comment oh my gosh is that a priest that molests boys is that a priest who has no authority is that a priest who backs a church that that used to teach uh indulgences if you gave money you could get your relatives out of heaven i mean where do you want to end is that a priest that has uh archaic sentences on their pope's hat where does it end and you say i should go to them

my goodness okay on good does not mean true video uh roger the book of luke is true you could take it out of the bible's collection of books the bible would still be sufficient to lead christ without it but why would you? We are so blessed by the accounts and instruction we find there. We learn in Luke more about Jesus' birth.

We learn in Luke about significant parts of Jesus' ministry. I would hate to not have it. We all know the twelve tribes of Israel have been scattered. There are many more writings of God's chosen. Are you getting the gist, or do you want me to read the whole thing? Read the whole thing.

I don't understand his point point uh okay there are many more writings of god's chosen than what we find in the bible and we know there will be a great gathering before christ's return the book of mormon is the prophetic and instructional writings from the tribe of ephraim it is even prophesied about in the bible ezekiel 37 the the stick or scroll of Judah is what we find in the Bible. The Book of Mormon is the sticker scroll of Ephraim.

Do we need the Book of Mormon to find Jesus? No. But why would we choose not to have further instruction in enlightenment? Why would any Christian choose to reject the writings of the Bible prophesied would be joined to one another with the Bible and become one in thine hand? side will be joined to one another with the Bible and become one in thine hand.

Okay, so just for you guys who happen to watch this, that context that he took was in Ezekiel where God tells him to take two sticks and bind them together into one. And Joseph Smith said, the one sticks the Bible, the other stick is the Book of Mormon. Put them together into one. The Mormons put their scriptures in a quad.

The missionaries walk around with it. And that is their biblical proof text for it. But the context of those passages, all you got to do is turn to the chapter and just read the chapter. It's the Judah, and it's the putting of the Northern Kingdom and the Southern Kingdom of the nation of Israel back together that had divided.

That's all it is. It has nothing to do with the Book of Mormon. Well, okay. There's that part. And then there's the logic of just why would we not listen to it? And that's fair. fair like but then you should also take all books ever written into account alongside the bible and be like why would i not read this book and like it's it's the same it's on the same level as that i would agree with that however what i would add to that in in resistance to what he said why would you not is because the book of mormon like muhammad claimed uh the quran is

the most correct book on the face of the earth joseph smith said the book of mormon is the most correct book on the face of the earth and a man will draw closer to god by reading it than any other book the book of mormon also couches itself as being so perfect and the word of god now here's the problem it's not based in anything that the bible's based in it's based in a man saying this is what the spirit told me these words mean by looking at rocks and a hat the bible is based in linguistic genetic historical, archaeological

evidences. Is that Bible perfect? No. But it blows the Book of Mormon away in terms of evidences. That's why you don't embrace it as the book you read to get closer to God. Oh, okay. I see. Yeah. 100% not closer to God. Right. But he says, why wouldn't you not read it? Yeah.

It's not fair to liken the like that's why but he says why wouldn't you not yeah yeah it's not fair to like in the book of mormon to luke in the way that this guy is it is fair to like in the book of mormon to uh yeah or like yeah any other book by tolstoy or something like someone else but see the mormons would say it's not like tolstoy because it's the word of god i know that's what's completely wrong right but you yeah you can read the book of mormon and get something from it sure just like another book any book it's not inspired like the bible and we are about reading and we are about testing other books and we're not against that yeah um jeff i happily read all the books but i

also judge them all by the same criteria the book of mormon doesn't hold up it's so over now that even apologists are backpedaling on claims that means a lot coming from jeff who's very well read and jeff also said sean's absolutely right about the two sticks having been lds he validates that thank you robert says it was a total joke i have read your books glen hill don preston even tried reading joseph i'm all in with fulfillment i wanted to bring up something real fast that i saw someone talking about um how we can't even it's the same it's the same thought but we can't

even got a call Oh not paying attention here we go hi you're on the air I'm on the air right now you are sorry about that to throw you off How you doing brother Thanks, I forget to bother you independently I would do it in front of other people independently. I would do it in front of other people. Well, good you did.

Nice. I want to say I love you. Love you too. Love the work that you're doing. And I just want to tell you, I think you're on fire for like the last couple weeks, man. The stuff that you're saying has been right up my alley. Wow. Stuff that I've been thinking about and trying to talk to people about. And I don't quite have the platform that you do to have somebody sit down with me and have an hour-long conversation about this kind of stuff.

So I watched your message this morning in Matthew, and I just wanted to bring up a few things about it. Yes. One, regarding the Trinity, the way that it's understood by modern christians is completely wrong what you try to tell people was is jesus was jesus god absolutely not how should he pray to the father of people he prayed to himself right where there's all kinds of things in scripture that tells us he was not God. Yeah.

He was granted Godhood after he finished his work. Right. Amen. He sits at the right hand of the Father, and he was given every power that God has. He was given to him because he completed his work. That's right. Amen. Yeah. Jesus is the That's right. Amen. Yeah. Jesus is the word of God. Amen. Well, he was on the face of the earth.

My words are not me. They are me. And they are not me entirely. That's what he was on the face of the earth until he completed his work and was granted God. Yeah. Right? So, man, thanks for handling that message. I think it's crazy important that people understand that Yeah. Thank you. Go ahead. I said thank you.

Oh, yeah. Something else that you brought up when you were talking earlier was about children. And I've heard this throughout my entire life. Well, because we're born into original sin, children go to hell. Of course not. I mean, that is such a ridiculous thought. And it goes along with your teaching. That fulfilled everything, right satan is defeated we don't have that original sin anymore people used to go to hell which means just outside the kingdom of god because they couldn't be there because there wasn't a way there before like so christ right no i'll make

sense so children don't go to hell of course not amen christ even said give examples of that in scripture you do these unto the least of them he's talking about children right and he tells us to have faith like a child what if you read scripture what in the world you think a child would go to help i know that makes no sense it's just.

People never think about this and read scripture and be led by scripture, not what they've heard or what we've learned through modern Christianity osmosis, right? This lie that has been told to everybody. Amen, brother. Right with you. Fine. Fine with me. Thanks. That's what I said. You're like flying around all cylinders, man. You're like telling the stuff.

It's amazing. I'm finally catching up with you. Final thing. Well, I'm catching up with you. So we're just chasing each other's tail, I guess. The final thing I thought was really interesting. I don't say any prayers other than the Lord's Prayer. The quote-unquote Lord's Prayer. Prayer to me is you're just talking with God.

That's why he tells us to be in prayer constantly. So you're either talking to God, but the disciples are like, wow, we don't know how to pray. So Christ is like, okay, you're going to pray. Do it in this way, right? Our Father who art in heaven, lead us not into temptation. I have always struggled with that until you mentioned today what the original meaning of the temptation is is tested yeah which makes sense father please don't leave me leave me into testing that doesn't mean that he's not going to he chooses whether he's

going to test us he doesn't tempt us scripture tells us that that's right but he won't but he will test us so that just like mind altering and earth shadows okay i've tested my son ransom not to lead him into harm but to show him that if he follows my instruction and the things that i've taught him i'm going to give him this test he will well.

And if he doesn't follow the instruction and teaching that I've given him, he will not do well. So I think the prayer in the Lord's prayer is, I don't want to be tested, God. Lead me not into testing, but deliver me from evil if you test me. Yeah, I love that. That was it. Really good, Jason. Thank you so much much and love to ransom we'll do have a great day thank you guys for your for your effort and your ministry i love it thank you man we love you bye-bye bye-bye goodbye we have someone saying can I come up live? Jacques Bazinet.

And did you think his name is bassinet? No, I'm laughing at a text question we just got. But that is funny. Like in person? Yeah, Jacques. Is that what did you mean on video with us or in person? Let us know. Someone asked last week for your movie requests, movie suggestions. Oh, all of them? Yeah. Remember they said, can you recommend some more Spirit of Christ movies people don't consider Christian? Oh, yeah.

I'm going to give you one right now. Okay. Which I believe, you know, I was the world, then my approach is to create your own cultural thing, whether people like it or not. For the simple reason that you can take what you know is important for people in the world, and you can build up a way where you can then give them advice about it, whether they want it or not.

For instance, last year we did the five fives and nobody commented on the five fives. That was five best musicians, five films, five books. And we just did it. We just did it. Right. But now anybody who's watched us, if I say the following, they're going to probably listen. And then I'm going to be able to influence the world a little bit in a way of a recommendation.

So I'm going to do that now. You ready? All right. The recommendation is the greatest film ever made for the Christian ethic of life. It's called The Sweet Hereafter. I've watched it twice in the past week. It is done by a man named Atom, A-T-O-M, Goyen, Goy something, Canadian, and watch the suite here after and test it for what it is teaching in a Hollywood way.

And it's also the best film artistically in writing, acting, cinematography, everything in terms of its value to humanity. It's the best film ever made. Wow. So there you go. Okay. A few things. First of all, so there you go okay a few things first of all Jacques said on this stream let me address that really fast but I have to tell you that's the texture of that question I laughed because they followed up that was last week they said that and they I laughed because they said same question but for Delaney Sean's movies are too dark so I don't know how dark the sweet hereafter is not all of them dark

as all get out but it's all about life but sean's recommendations years go from dark to very sweet and innocent too you say the sound of music you say all sorts of movies i have a very wise yeah steel Magnolias all the all the movies yeah so I I hate to tell you but I have the same taste as him yeah um like yeah I like the dark movies too but there's some nice ones there's I don't know why but the movie that popped up in my head is uh jojo rabbit that's really sweet oh my gosh that's a christian film through and through and it's like it's not as dark yeah i mean there's darkness to

it but um guy i just had another one on my top of my head that wouldn't be considered dark that's beneficial but jojo rabbit's excellent well jac i want to ask this because we can send this person a link oh but they it terrifies me to send you a link because they could pop up and be showing anything oh no we don't do that yeah okay yeah you can call you can call me we just got pranked we don't want to maybe it's the same guy no that's what i'm a little like my trusting self would have said yes if we didn't just get

a prank phone call so um just for the sake of people's eyes even though we want to trust you you can give us a call though yeah it's so scary because in this world which is not something that was around when i was a kid but they have things called dick pics now and you know dick pics men taking pictures of their dicks and sending them to women unsolicited unsolicited like that blows my mind that that's not a prisonable crime yes it should be a crime first of all secondly what are they saying is this the only thing a woman would want from a man yeah

i mean i think a woman would rather see his his uh bank account yeah men no woman ever wants to be sent one of those pictures yeah so you know what never ever come to we have become so debased that our phallus is the is the identifier as to whether someone wants you or not or it's the way the only thing that you're going to share in common yeah what a debased world well he says no i'm cool i don't i just no he's saying he's cool. Like he can get on the stream.

Oh. This might be him calling. 714, are you a Huntington Beach person? Hi, who's this? Yeah, this is Jacques. I was just trying to get on the live stream there. Yeah. He told me to call. Are you from Huntington Beach? No, I Oklahoma oh oh weird you're coming in as a 714 phone number that's odd oh right I moved from California though oh what about I just kept my I kept my number from Orange County oh how funny that's where we're from well sorry we had to not let you on video are you from calvary calvary chapel i was from there i was i went to their school of ministry but i'm not associated

with them right right i noticed greg laurie's getting in trouble yeah what's that about what did he do oh he he was involved in this Romanian orphans stuff, and one of his – the guy he had in charge running it was like – what happened? I can't hear you, Norm. Oh, we're here. We're here. Oh, anyway, the guy he had running it, you know, it was made clear to them that, you know, he was essaying children and whatnot.

And Greg Laurie just left him there in charge after knowing this. Now he's getting sued by people. victims. Yeah. And he's all up in with the TPUSA, which seems like a dirty organization. It's all coming to light. Yeah, when you said Romania, that's where... Oh, sorry. I was just going to say, Sean, yeah, I've just seen you around on the internet and stuff.

You were against the Mormons, and then I noticed you figured out that Jesus already returned. The whole Bible is fulfilled. Right? Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad you came there. Me too. Awesome, man. I mean, it's pretty obvious. I mean, there's pretty obvious. I mean, there's so many verses. The whole New Testament is about this sense of urgency.

Like, you know, look up and stay awake. And those of you who have wives, act as though you had none for the time is at hand. And these Christians don't get it, man. They think that all this is about some thousands of years later people yeah exactly i'm glad you get it too oh my god i know it's such a relief yeah i mean i i was christian and i saw these things and you know i never really bought the second coming like it just didn't ring true to me like Jesus is going to come soon just out of the sky and then you know there's so

many verses that that say that he was going to come while some of them standing there were still alive and Paul taught them that you know the dead in Christ would rise first when the Lord comes. And we which remain should be caught up with them. Yeah. And people are still waiting around for this stuff. I know. It's insane.

It really is. You have to make Jesus a liar, Paul a liar, Peter a liar yeah exactly every one of them had to be wrong yeah i mean it's antichrist jesus says something and they go no that's not right it's something else yeah that's antichrist what are you now jo I'm just post Christian I don't even believe you can be a Christian I love God yeah yeah directly the father yeah that's who Jesus told us to worship with all your heart and all your mind and all your soul and treat other people like you like them to treat you yeah right with you man that's it yeah yeah we're totally with you that's that's so cool

i appreciate that appreciate you you too my friend we love you thanks for checking in your your your little picture by your name it looks like like you're kind of a cool dude. Okay, I appreciate that. I'm going to let you go. All right, see you later, man. Thanks so much. Talk to you later. I like complimenting men.

They don't know what to do with it, right? Men don't know what to do with compliments. It makes me really sad. Men don't know what to do with compliments. I think it's like men don't know what to do with compliments oh wow another calling i think it's just it's him again oh hey you're back butt dial butt dial all right um i know it makes me realize you all don't get complimented and now we don't we don't know what to do. I'm always on. You get a lot of compliments.

I know. I have such a warped sense of men's experience from you as my father. But man, you guys, I feel so bad for you. What the world has done to you. If I say to somebody like, I love you, they'll be like. Yeah. I love you, they'll be like, I love you, though. They totally freak out. That's something that my generation seems to have also less of a hard time with. Yeah.

It's kind of an advance. A give and take. And they have done well in that. Yeah. Men being just a little more emotionally vulnerable present yeah um we got any more comments no that hour went faster than I expected yeah it doesn't take much it's uh it's good stuff we want to encourage you guys you know like Jacques and and Jeff and Robert and Lindsay and anyone and and Jason, people who've called in and commented today.

I know several of them personally, and I know that you guys and girls listening are seekers. And that's all that we are. We aren't certainty people. We aren't people who can tell you emphatically anything definitively. We teach what we think. We trust that you will do your own homework. And we're here to help to create conversations so that we can investigate and come to a unity of the faith, which we should have been in for 2000 years, but never have been.

been in for 2,000 years, but never have been. So we do suggest clearly that our belief is Christ returned, He took His bride, and now His Spirit, the Spirit of Christ given at Pentecost, is now within every person, calling them to believe and receive God, that they aren't the recipients of His wrath. He's not angry. He's not coming back to destroy the world.

He sent his son to save us, and his son is calling to all, irrespective of denominational or religious affiliation. And that's truly what I think we believe. Do you concur with that, Del? I do. You want to answer Jeff's question here? Oh, Sean, do you think that the great throne judgment like Daniel and Reveille already happened prior to, or is it part of the end of the age? No, it's a great question, Jeff.

I think that the great throne judgment was to those who were under the law and those who were put in Sheol or any of them. They went before the great white throne and the books were opened. And I don't think that we are going to experience the great white throne judgment the books were opened.

And I don't think that we are going to experience the great white throne judgment anymore. I think that we will die. The assessment, the judgment's been done on us. It's only going to be an assessment for our rewards that God wants to give us. I don't think there's going to be a, oh, you did this punishment, but it certainly was for them then. Good question though. Okay.

If you are interested in our leadership program, we encourage you to reach out to us in whatever way you know. I'll put my email here. It's going to be a good group coming up. A lot of faces that have been around and a lot of our former so-called students. They're not students of ours, but they've gone through it.

They're there to help. And we're really starting to form this kind of unique community. And in a few weeks or months we're gonna launch out some new things to you that i'm gonna be doing personally in addition to what we do every week yeah and it's gonna be more of our outreach now like actual outreach and how we're gonna do it right um email me delaney yeshins.faith it's really taking really good shape and uh like you said, those new things.

And we also will be reaching out to people who we want to get into conversation with. We're going to be very selective. It's not anyone and everyone. It's serious people. But if you have someone in mind that would be good to put us kind of um up against not in a debate way but in like a um question expo expository way uh we want to be exposed so please give us some ideas yeah and the comments going on did they disappear now because jacques said the judgment was for those from Adam to Christ who slept in the grave. And that is absolutely dead on. Good one. And then Jeff says, I see. So where people

sent to shield temporarily as part of the judgment, trying to understand the window of time, hell was applicable, if at all, if it mostly gets introduced in the book of Revelation. Sorry for the big question right at the end.

And, jeff the way i see it maybe jacques can help next week on that but the way i see it is it wasn't it wasn't a punishment um it was partially a punishment for faithlessness but it was more of a separation because of adam's fall that they went to that shield during that period of time. I hope that makes sense. And it's not too short for the end of our show. Love you guys. All right. Love you. Bye-bye. Do those questions disappear? Hold on.

Can they still talk to me? you