Forty Five Biblically Supporter Reasons Organized Religion is Over, Part 4

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Or if you were living in the bubble Well, I'm coming to your town to break it all down And help you with all of this I'm looking to help you find bliss One day, one way, can't miss I'm here to tear all the walls down. Doesn't matter if it's a large town or a small town. Just like Joshua and the famous walls of Jericho, I'm here to tear down the institution.

But you must tell seven friends. You must first bring seven friends. And don't be selfish and keep this all to yourself and don't eat shelf-less. Hate is trying to take someone else's love for yourself. But I'm here to tell you that love is trying to help someone else. You need to see me right away so I can fix this up.

You need to see me right away. So I can fix this up You need to see me right away You need to see me right away, so I can fix this up You need to see me right about now And if you are suffering a straight sickness Someone is blocking up all of your success You need to see me right away so I can fix this Sounds sincerely yours in faith, love, and peace Your friend Archbishop Harold Holmes Hey, hey, hey Hey, hey, hey We are on, we're live, hey, hey. We are on.

We're live. This is Heart of the Matter Epiphany. And when we say we, it is Delaney, it is Dad, and it is little Ava. Look at the top of that head. She does everything with us now. And she has a voice. Hopefully it's going to be a little quiet for this show. We love it. Our family is really grateful to God that we can be able to come and talk to you guys and hope we help in some way with your growth and your walk and enlighten you we have some things coming up this year that are gonna we think will be pretty

supportive of your journey but we'll talk about that in just a second actually let's talk about now but tonight we're in 45 Biblically Supported Reasons Why Organized Religion is Over. And by the way, this is part four, and it's the last of this series. Next week, we are going to talk about Joseph Smith.

Delaney and I are going to talk about Joseph Smith. So prepare for that one. All right. Before we start, a couple of things. I just want to mention yeshuans.faith. We're on the Heart of the Matter channel right now. This is the show Heart of the Matter, but we are part of Yeshuans, which is an educational ministry that we and our family have founded.

And we're on the hunt for people who care about agape love before division. Anyone who believes in that, no matter what God you think you believe in, we welcome you. And we're trying to collect anyone of that spirit, especially in the current state of Christianity, which is literally starting war instead of unity.

So, yeah, she wins. Faith is where you can find more information about that. We write a lot of things that we believe in teach, but you don't have to agree with them. We want you to come and learn and challenge and show us what you believe. Absolutely. All right. Anything else on the docket for this week for this week uh you should check out the the matthew verse by verse at eight every sunday morning and also what's the other one sunday school he teaches twice at eight and ten on sundays on the yeshuns and then after that and last week i really think you should watch the sunday school really truly what date was that was that the it was the 22nd yeah you should watch that sunday

school because i think if you have any question about what we really are saying i think that will help and then delaney and i get together and we do a live call-in show every sunday at 2 p.m mountain yeah we had quite a few calls, actually. We've had negative calls. We've had, what do they call them? Trolls. Troll calls.

And I used to get so mad when we were on live TV and they'd do that. I'd say, come out to the station. Meet me outside after the show. No, welcome to the internet yeah it's just it's only spineless little weak men sitting behind their computer who can't call and use their voice to actually argue it's insane i think she's right that it's primarily weak men but there are sorry well the ones that called were men oh yeah we've never had a prank caller that was a woman yet no we really haven't this day he's juvenile boys it's not saying it's all men but that's all

you've seen so far so um but the people that call in generally are men with the good stuff too so yeah that's true that's true all right um one more plug if you want to participate in our leadership program we're doing that now. You have until May 1st. There's a prerequisite course on yeshuans.faith that you would take that we have a really good group of people taking right now in preparation.

So contact me at Delaney at yeshuans.faith if you want to be a part of that. Excellent. All right. So a lot of people have asked lately about how you do your work. So you want to give us a rundown of how you just are so prolific and have come to the things you've come to in your life? Well, listen, let's just be straight up here. I am as dumb as a fence post when it comes to academics.

I can't even begin to understand simple algebra. I cheated my way through high school, literally cheated my way to graduate high school, and I cheated to graduate from college. So I was a cheater because I didn't, I was too rebellious and the standard approaches to learning had no effect on me. I was too dumb and belligerent. So I was so bad.

And even in the school of ministry with Calvary Chapel, that the, many of the guys in there did what, when I showed up to graduate, we're like, what are you doing here? Because I didn't do, I did terrible on language. Yeah. And they really didn't think I should graduate. Yeah. But anyway, since we're telling people church is over, and since we emphasize the fact that God is in all people and he says, you know, don't look to anybody who know the lord know the lord you can know him yourself we promote self-education in the faith especially i am all for education formal and colleges and

universities and high school don't don't think i'm recommending to do it that way but uh you know know the lord uh so here they are i thought that uh i would share Delaney's made a graphic for us and I just put this up. First of all, I have three to seven things going at once always. So I'll have a book.

I have a teaching. I have a piece of art. I have family stuff. I have desires and goals. Seven things at once. So because I'm short attention span, I will move from one to the other to keep all of them going. Can I ask you something? Yeah.

How do you pick what to work on? Well, one, what comes first in my priority is always, always going to be the family. Okay. If the family's in need, nothing else will get done. Secondly is what is obligated by what we set up. So we have to do verse by verse. We have to do the shows and whatever else. And then how I'm inclined by the spirit in terms of a topic, I'll write a book.

And they're not great books, but they're just for information. And then on art, if I'm inclined art, I throw it in there every now and then. I need something. But the older I get, the slower I'm getting on physical work. So but I choose by kind of the spirit. And I have probably 50 threshed out outlines for 50 different books that I'll never get done because I just can't.

But that's you kind of test and see where you're going. All right. And then the uh, I, the stop and go method of learning. And what I mean by that, I started doing this right out of high school is that when I would read a book or I would anything, if I didn't understand something, and this was before the internet, I would stop, I would underline the book and I would look up what the word was because I didn't have a great vocabulary and I would learnline the book and I would look up what the word was because I didn't have a great vocabulary. And I would learn what the word meant so that I understood what the thing was. And if

you do that all the way through, if you do it with, I don't get what's going on in this passage. I don't understand what he means by this word. If you apply these things to studying the scripture, it takes years, but you then really qualify yourself in understanding what's being said. The reason I do that is because I've been caught when I first started as a missionary.

I think I remember a Mormon missionary, I cited a word and the person said, what does that mean? And I didn't know. And I thought, oh my gosh so that's that's the basis behind that I'll let the spirit move in terms of time dedicated to the thing you're doing for instance if I have the seven things going but the spirit is pushing hard on one thing I might even go a month and not touch the seven things if there's a book that's really coming out so I try to follow the spirit on how to do it and stop and go and then also I'm gonna cover this a little more detail in a

second but learn inductively about information rather than deductively inductively versus deductive and we'll talk about that dedicate yourself to a regimentation and that means do your thing every day when the time comes to do it and always do it okay and but when when you do that regimentation liberates you because when you're so regimented that with something comes up you're free to do it because you've been you feel good about the regimentation yeah you've lived up to right and but if you just act or react to things that happen to you you will always be running

after those things now some people can't do that a new mother can't do that parents can't do that but this is what you know i've done and then also never be without something to read, something to write with and in downtime. If I go to meet somebody, I have a book.

If I'm sitting waiting, if I'm in an elevator, no matter what, I go to a funeral, I'm going to bring a book because that is how you constantly are forging on this base that you're trying to build. And people won't like it. We're at a party. Why are you reading that book? People used to ask that. I'd be like, well, I'll party. And it's annoying. I get it. And then finally, consult the Spirit and its fruit as you're learning things to see if it supports, as you're studying, especially the scripture and any philosophy, see if it supports faith in Christ alone directly or religion, and if it promotes love, agape love.

So those are the seven things that I do. And really quickly, I think a great modern schism occurs when we went from inductive reasoning of reading the Bible to deductive reasoning. So what's the difference? Deductive reasoning are those who support tradition. And what they do is they read the scripture with a prejudice.

I know hell is real. I know the Trinity is real. I know this. I know that. And it involves the spirit of man. You have a teaching, the Trinity. It's been told to you that it's true, and this is what it is. So you go in when you read, and you see the Trinity everywhere you go.

And then it also, we call it Athens because it relates to human logic and reason and systems, theological systems. And then it's based in collectivism, and it's for this material world. But seekers of God and spirit and truth, I suggest you read the Scripture inductively. And that means you rely on the Spirit of Christ, and it's more Jerusalem. It's more from God.

It's possible God can teach you all things by the Spirit of His music through the words instead of Athens, instead of religion. It's subjective. You learn and grow at the rate you're at. It's not objectively demanded and given to you. And where deductive reasoning is really an earth-based way, inductive reasoning is based more on spiritual things. So I just wanted to cover those things.

There's some more to it, but just know that very logical, very mathematic, very Calvinist to do systematic theology, to have a principle and do deductive reasoning. We say follow the music of the Spirit, and these verses will start to open up to you and blow your mind. Makes sense? Yeah, it does. All right. Okay. There it is.

Now. And now. sense yeah it does all right okay there it is now and now we can move on to the series conclusion of 45 biblical we justified reasons that organized religion is over way to go this is the last section so let's put the graphic up okay sorry if that text is small but we had to fit it all in so in the last 2,000 years there had to be a physical order Authority presence as evidenced by the application Apostolic Church on earth today.

Yeah, what is it today? Today there's zero need for physical order or authority of objective Truths since the faith is truly subjective. It's personal It's in the hand of the Holy Spirit where God writes his laws on our hearts and minds I gotta I gotta ask you Delaney listen writes his laws on our hearts and minds.

I gotta, I gotta ask you, Delaney, listen, why can you explain the value and, and the basis of why subjective faith is the reality instead of people disagreeing with it? Do you have any thoughts about why subjective faith is actual, the reality in this world instead of just going along yeah what do you think i've been thinking about this like it's the idea that there are people that exist that say they follow buddha there are people that exist that say there is no God and you break that down and every single person has a different conception of what God is and

just the sheer like real evidence of that means if there is a God we can for sure say he allows that yeah like bottom line that if there's a God, that's one thing we know for sure is that he allows everyone to think what they want. So what does that mean? He's not killing the Buddhists. He's not killing the Muslims.

Right. And he hasn't, he never has like he's, and he's not only does he allow it, but he's let it get more and more plural as time has gone on yeah where you know there was and and christians would say that's the world getting more and more evil right so and the world is infiltrating into the church yes and we are becoming corrupted by it and all of that stuff but the fact of the matter is the world either creeps into the hearts of individuals or that individual resists the world into the church there is no church it was

taken and that's the problem with material religion trying to establish this order of authority because they we have to stay separate we have to stay separate no the only way to get the church to exist is by our will yeah that's what and so people think our will is what will usher in god's will yeah and i understand that thinking like i've been there before i don't now when i think look at it now I'm like I don't understand that but I don't know why that proves suggestive faith because I don't in the end I don't think you need to think it's

fulfilled to get to that place even though it's much more valid through that biblical perspective yeah another thing is evidenced right here on our screen. We have a baby. That baby has not been taught anything yet. And then we have her mom. And she has been taught a lot about things in this world. They don't have the same mind.

They might have different intellects, different interests. And then you have me, dad. And Delaney and I don't have the same mind and the same maturity in different things. You take an audience of 200 people in a church and you have babes, you have new people, you have old people. It's impossible for this faith to be objectively demanded.

And yet that's what all the religions try to impose i think they would suggest that there are the argument that a christian would make against what everyone else in the world would make is that there are unchanging things about a human that we should align to and we are better for it if we align to them and then then that's the point of the bible is god telling people how to align themselves with a good way of living over a bad way and the the comeback to that is that's absolute in fact fact, this Sunday teaching on Sunday school will really lead to this.

But this is why we understand why there are so much division and so much argument and so much objectively determined religion on Earth today. Because when you read the Old Testament, it was entirely collective. Everybody, nobody was an island island you followed the objective thing then when christ comes it was an apostolic church that had an objective of a bride and they had to do things this way to stay united and collective so when someone reads the Bible and cuts their teeth on the Bible, they see that in the Old Testament,

they see it in the New Testament, and they don't understand that that was for them then. And then they try to, as you know, we try to bring it forward into the true church and play church under those models.

But we completely lose all the other stuff that God has said about how to be yeah christians and people's understanding of christians uh perspective is that the new testament is a manual for us right now and instead we could see it as a record of how christ ended an economy that was material yes and like ended that and now it's something else yes rather than started it that's right and we're still so just for the sound bite to be able to it's a good one say that and so we have like on sunday we have people call say you got to go to the catholic. We have a line through Peter.

And it's just like, it's such a nauseating thing. But in this state, we have another church that says, we're the only true church on the face of the earth. You have to be baptized by our priesthood. And this is the game of religion that we're warring against. The original question was, why is it subjective? And the evidence of the world is that people have their opinions.

There are so many Christians that read the Bible and see love as the through line. There are so many that read the Bible and see God's sovereignty as the through line. Like it's what you see in it. Yeah. Literally, it's what you see in it. Yeah. Literally, it's what you see in it. Yeah. And so it is subjective.

Yeah. It just is. It's not like we're trying to make it subjective. No. It is subjective. It is subjective. And we're trying to respond to that condition. That reality. Yeah. And the fact of the matter is we reiterate this. Our family reiterates it. If you are a Calvinist, if you are a collectivist, a religionist, a Mormon, we love you the same.

Because you're in, you are, one, trying to walk by faith. Two, you're trying to do what God wants. And we think that he will reach you according to where you're at and how you want to believe and live. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's move on. Okay. believe and live yeah yeah all right let's move on okay two truth is assessed either by the bible or the bible tradition tradition and the authority of a church yeah what is it now and uh you know there are the bible does teach us how to grow and mature etc etc., etc. But all truth, all truth, earthly and heavenly,

because there's a new heaven and a new earth under the victory of Christ, can be vetted by the fruit of the Spirit, which is agape love. It's vetted by agape love, and not necessarily through either biblical material demands or by doctrine. It is not vetted by doctrine. And I want to talk about that for a second, that I wish we could bring this more forward together into the world.

And that is when you have a Muslim and a Jew and a Baha'i and a Baptist and all the people that everyone agrees you can have your doctrine and beliefs let's love each other with agape love in that place that you're at we cannot help that we were raised in Kazakhstan by Muslim parents we can't help that we cut our teeth on the Quran it's the spirit that we're schizophrenic and murder people we can't help any of it.

And that's another thing we want to talk about in our verse by verse is that we, I don't know if you, we've talked about this. I really strongly believe that pretty much in the flesh, we are predetermined. We are predetermined to be and do kind of what we do, which is along with the atheist perspective.

You can't help that you have DNA that you're going to have asthma. You can't help that you were born with freckles. I mean, you can cover it up, but we are predetermined in the material world by all these factors around us. But where we're not is in our choice to love. us but where we're not is in our choice to love I think everyone has the ability to love as God wants them to with the spirit of him on their heart yeah I I the more we get into this work the more I feel like what we're doing is realistic solution to like

to us having our faith and wanting to live by that and allow other like a realistic solution that works for all people and at all scales all people at all scales the only thing that works is love is like allowing the other to exist yeah um and to serve them and it's not like collectively demanded love right it's like it because that we're seeing i'm finding a lot of people that are trying to build community on love and it's like the point of love is is agreeing with someone that doesn't want to love.

That's right. Like that, it's the only... The minute you build a community of love, you're going to have a community of law. Yeah. Have to. So, yeshuans to me is first that. It's first trying to welcome all people into this new way of working. it's first trying to welcome all people into this new way of working and then once we're all agreed on that we dig into the bible from the correct disposition together and like figure out or dig into the quran or whatever you do to figure out okay whose doctrine is more aligned with that than

the other right and if people disagree the the Mormons say, well, my Doctrine and Covenants says, okay, you can do that. Love. Yeah, like, it's faulty already. Like, some are going to be more faulty than others. Some might work better for other in the, you know, Mormonism and the Doctrine and Covenants works for people who need that structure.

Absolutely. That's how God has allowed all these things to exist, but it doesn't make them right. It doesn't mean he's in them. Doesn't mean he's in them either. Well, he's in them, but not because of the Book of Mormon or the doctrine of covenants. That's a question. What God is in and what he's not in. Oh, you mean in that practice.

No, I'm talking about in the individuals oh yes yeah so i want to role play i know you want to move on but i want to role play so i want to come to you uh as you're a believer you're a yeshuan and you meet me and i want you to respond to me saying different things to you okay okay um i don't really believe there's a god you okay okay um i don't really believe there's a god um at this point in my life um what do you think i think that if there is a god he lets you believe that clearly because you believe that yeah

am i am i is he gonna does he hate me if there's this god no no not at all my belief doesn't make him love me more no no okay okay another scenario i am divorced i left my family of five i realize i'm a homosexual man now and i'm living with my new husband but i really do want to know about christ what do i have to do do want to know about Christ what do I have to do read the Bible hmm yeah or even before that like open yourself to just not knowing and you know do I have to change my lifestyle oh no no no but isn't my lifestyle

according to the bible that you guys study considered sinful um i mean maybe we you and i differ on this but i don't think so i think i mean maybe but that doesn't matter it's not relevant anymore how come it's not relevant because from our perspective as yeshuans the work of christ was to shift from having to worry about being imperfect to living and and living by the spirit and getting as close as we can and and through those mistakes getting closer to god rather than preventing the mistakes yeah so what you're saying if i

understand right is that god works through our error and mistakes in a positive way but religions want us to stop those mistakes so that god can work with us yes all right makes sense thanks for articulating it my stranger friend you did good she i this kid's smart i just i she didn't anticipate that i love i love that all right next one okay the faith is near in the past 2000 years the faith has been narrowly narrowly confined and governed by certain men and their convictions or educational degrees.

Yeah. You can't even preach in a Christian church today with their approval unless you've got one of those degrees from one of their colleges. from one of their colleges. Saving faith is abundant, broad, and present in the lives of all people who from the heart seek God in spirit and truth, irrespective of denomination or educational background or degree.

And the thing about that is that totally dispels mannals organized religion anybody can be a teacher a woman can teach anybody can share this this organized patriarchal junk does not work anymore in this world and it's going to stop that's correct okay people in the last thousand years were either saved to heaven which happens only by knowing christ personally or they're hell bound and will remain there forevermore and uh it's really really amazing how this abides in the minds of religious people I always tell the story I was riding my bike down to the Huntington Beach Pier I was doing the show

up here and one of those way of the master people stopped me on my bike and said are you saved and i said yeah i think so and they said well wait a minute well do you know do you know jesus i said yeah do you believe and they vet me they're vetting us insane you, and look at there is a saved from that Christ gave all human beings from the fall to the present day. We are all saved from the sin we do because we're human and Adam's fall.

We are all saved from those things. So the genetic things that were predetermined by and the failures in our weakness in our flesh we concur with Paul who said therefore with the mind I serve the law of God but with the flesh the law of sin yeah Paul as an apostle wrote that with his mind he serves the law of God with his flesh the law of sin and Christians and religions and Mormons they want to get out of that I'm sorry Delaney I was thinking about the the Christian condescension that no one knows about Jesus and you are going to be the person that tells them right there on the bike.

Like, it's just, it's just insane. Where John in the gospel of John says that he's in all men. And the group we prayed with that day, what did they call it? The Quakers. The Quakers. They believe that God, because of the victory of Christ, is in all. And we agree with that. I didn't know that was a verse. Yeah, it's, is in all. And we agree with that.

Is that a verse? I didn't know that was a verse. Yeah, it's a verse. Wow. Yeah. Isn't that wild? Yeah, I thought it was like a theoretical thing. No, it's actually a verse. Yeah. So, listen. Bottom line, Satan, hell, the grave, all of that is over. There is nobody going into hell forevermore. That has been cast into the lake of fire.

We're in an entirely new age. Not to mention, even if you don't think that Christ fulfilled all things, that the second coming happened, the conception of heaven and hell right now are wrong yeah based on that like look into what heaven and hell actually are supposed to be and they're temporary yeah and they're not heaven like it's not even heaven that's all hell there's no heaven it's just you should really look into it yeah i mean we've looked into it you know call us on sunday at two question you know we are we on Sunday at two question.

You know, we are, we are not trying to start a new religion. That's the last thing we need on this earth. But we do want to get you to take our little deodorizer and hang it in your Catholic car and your Mormon car and your Baptist car and see what we're trying to say and test it. Yeah. Okay. it yeah okay okay in the past 2,000 years believers were expected to share the good news with everyone on earth yeah and this is where it gets tough because if you're a Bible reader it sounds like that's the case did you miss

one I'm sorry but do that one all right and and what they what they do is the good news to the Jews was that their Messiah has arrived, and if they repent and believe on him, they would be saved from their sin to the kingdom and from hell. But because the message is not to us, and Christ did that for the Jews of that day.

The good news for the bride in that day was for them. The great news is that it's all done. So even if someone says, I don't believe, the great news is Christ has paid for their sin and reconciled them to the father where they always have the freedom to choose to believe somewhere in their existence i take vitamins and they make me burp along with a medication that i inject myself with and it hits about now and she I don't mock it.

Hard to watch. I had to do that or I was going to. Sorry. Okay. We skipped one though. People live, die, and then are assigned to one destination or another in the afterlife, which we kind of. Forevermore. That was, yeah, that is what people have gone off in the last 2,000 years. And what would you say now? And I would say that God, if he tells us to forgive seven times 70, and if he tells us that love is to endure all things, believe all things, hope all things, and that he is love and it never ends, that if someone dies without faith and they're on the outside of the kingdom above, they have a chance to go in somewhere in the eternities.

What that looks like, we don't know, but it is definitely in harmony with the God of love that we worship. Okay. Number 40. Number 40. Number 40. Believers in the past 2,000 years should or must pay tithing, supporting their church, keeping a Sabbath, dress modestly, the same from sex, drugs, evil entertainment, certain foods, and a number of other laws.

Okay. Now hear me clearly. Paul makes this clear. what a believer chooses to do, how they choose to live, is completely, entirely, and solely between them and God. Nobody else. Nobody else. And ever, as we are all now responsible, because we have the Spirit of Christ in us, for the choices we make. And so we don't need to police people for their crimes.

One, I think it is absolutely hypocritical because everyone has crimes. But I've learned in the evangelical world and in Mormonism, some crimes are winked at and allowed among people. Other crimes are not. But according to what the scripture says we are all reprobate saved by god's grace believe on him and live make sense yeah okay um in the past thousand years organized religion was to reflect what christ established on earth right faith must be exercised within the confines of organized religious activity there's no saving faith outside the church and that was

big with the Catholic Church it's big with the Orthodox Church we got a popular restaurant here in Utah called crown burger one of the owners is a Greek Orthodox and he flatly I said I'd like to talk to you about your faith someday. He said, why? I said, I'd like to hear. He goes, we're right. We're absolutely right.

Just straight up, man. And, you know, look at, the reason for faith is to have a living, direct, observable relationship with your Creator, who you let govern your mind, will, and emotions relative to Him, and you let His respective will abide in others as it does, based off the things that Delaney and I were talking about earlier, immaturity, different upbringing.

Oh my gosh, when will we get to this? Can I share what one thing that Sean the Baptist is going to start doing in October? I want you to imagine that you're out in the desert, and maybe I already said this, I'm getting older, but you get out in the desert, Sean the Baptist is going to be out there, and we get two to five to ten people who come out, and they meet Sean the Baptist.

You know what he's going to say? who come out and they meet Sean the Baptist, you know what he's gonna say? You've been lied to. You Muslim, you Jew, you atheist, you Christian, you Mormon, you've all been lied to. Christ died for everyone, everyone, and he lets you live and believe as you want to believe. Don't follow what your forefathers and your parents and your pastors and bishops and preachers have taught you to hate other people.

Look at each other and love. That is it. That's the only message. That will be the message of Sean the Baptist. All right. I think. Yeah. I think, yeah. How are you going to be tying fulfillment into that message? If I'm asked. If I'm not, that's just going to be the message. And if someone, just to clarify here, if someone doesn't recognize Christ at all...

I might not use Christ in that speech. That was kind of me right now, but I might not even do it because of the idea, which is so hard for people. They think I'm denigrating Christ, but Christ is God. Yeah. Okay. So I don't even need to lead with Christ because the spirit of Christ has had the victory is in the Muslim who don't accept him. And I don't need to part ways with them.

If they are walking in faith and love, leave them, even if they're not, leave them alone. And the reason we can say that is because of Christ, which is the whole thing. Like if they dig into it enough, we can talk about that about that yeah that won't be the leading message that's an evangelical message and as soon as you say it then what everyone thinks is you're trying to get me to become a Christian in the sense that it's Christian today we don't want to do that yes yeah that's a good catch, what you just said. Well, just working through it, how we're going to do it.

MeetSeanTheBaptist.com. We're getting it going to plug that real fast. Yeah. Let's move on to the next one. Number 42, religious participation in the last 2,000 years has been key to salvation. Fail the church and a person fails God. And that is not unique, man. That's what churches cut their members' teeth on.

The personal aim for those who seek God in spirit and truth might be summarized as choosing to walk in humility first, irrespective of your doctrines. Seek his light. Try to learn of him and his ways through education. And we try to offer education free and liberally to you. And then to increase in personal liberty that God wants all of his children to possess.

He gave his son to give us liberty. If you want to not believe on him and you just want to eat, drink, and be married, do it. He is letting you. He gave you life. Yeah. The thing that's hard today is that people are critical of religion for the same reasons and say that it's subjective and they but we can see that it's not because people still do this thing where they're like i want to understand god i'm gonna go to church or i hate god i'm not gonna go to church it's like it's still baked in but even if they're critical of it that association

is still there yeah uh it's gonna take a long time for us to like really maybe forever to dismantle that yeah and and we hope that you'll help us dismantle it and get it out there you made me think of something what did you just say that what's the reason the association where people say i i i believe in god so i'm going to go to church again yeah and here's the thing like delaney mentioned earlier you want to go to church again. Yeah. And here's the thing, like Delaney mentioned earlier, you want to go to church and there

are churches that will help you and bring you along fine. But the problem is, is that they are all like people say marijuana is. Church is an introductory drug to bondage. The minute you go to a church to learn what god wants instead of going to god directly go to god directly and but if you go to a church they will promise you that they love you as you are that they receive you as you are that they're open and and everything but in time they start to boil the frog yeah yeah sorry she's making some noise. I love it. She's speaking. I have a question.

Yeah. I just saw a clip of a pastor who was saying, this might not be relevant, but kind of who's saying it's not the church's job to evangelize. It's the church's job to create saints who then go out and live and evangelize in their lives what that to me is a double down on saying you have to go to church first of all also a um denial of their responsibility the church to evangelize when they're like, it's like so many things at once going on in that statement. So do you have thoughts? I do. I think if you're a Bible

reader that what they're saying does hold true. Yeah. Because in Jesus' day and in the apostles day uh where they would evangelize by the way um the job of the church was to mature the believers and they wouldn't even let non-believers in they had a very us versus them mentality in that day and that's why bible readers maintain an us versus them mentality today okay because that bride had to be pure And when you brought in opposing forces in that setting, yes, it could defect, right? But today, there shouldn't even be church.

But if there is church, the purpose of it should be to teach. and but who are you teaching yeah do we have to all be believers and i don't think that holds water anymore so to some degree he's um correcting the route of like churches just being worship friendly churches he's speaking against that that's not bad yeah it's not bad because if you go to church you want to be taught and trained properly.

But the problem I would have that pastor is, yeah, but what's the price, pastor? What do they have to do? What do they have to pay? What bondage do you put them in? And then I would say, totally humbly, I went straight to God because of a radio pastor. And he's the one who took me under his wing. And I've never gone to one of you guys. The thing is, I think I wonder because they don't do this to you if I went to them and was like I read my Bible I teach myself I've learned more than I ever like I wonder if they'd have a problem with it I think they still would they would absolutely have a problem with it so it's I've made myself a saint through my

studies yet so there's still something that has to, yeah. It's not enough. I have one more question. The church in that day, I'm trying to understand this idea that the church is a group of people. That's the word for it in the Bible. It's called out, the ecclesia. Okay. Or ecclesia. word for it for in the bible called out the ecclesia okay or ecclesia so how do like evangelical churches biblically justify having a place that has more knowledge than the people like were there prof like what what was the structure of the church at that time

were there people that other people went to to learn from yeah okay they did that there were pastors teachers evangelists until they came to a unity of the faith okay so that was a thing yeah i i imagine the bride at that time being like everyone kind of knew what they needed to know. Because Paul's writing a letter to all of them and they don't need to be taught.

It was like it just happened. One, the Holy Spirit was in like triple fold then. Yeah, even more so where I'm like, I'm surprised they needed to go get taught by someone. I know. And Paul will say, needed to go get taught by I know and uh and Paul will say I was taught by any man you know so there was that independent too but for the bride they did have a structure of men and women in place deacons and teachers and until they came to that unity of the faith and they were ready to be taken by Christ so the again the problem you the Bible, you think it applies

to us, they keep doing it and they miss entirely what God intended. Okay. Can you guys indulge one more question? Yes, I can. In the fulfilled perspective, there's an increasing urgency with the way they talk about the time coming yeah is there a shifting um like characterization of the bride in the letters as getting more and more pure like becoming more and more unified can you read into that with the letters uh you can when you get to revelation where christ speaks to the seven churches of Asia Minor

and directly speaks to their goodness and their failures. Okay. You can see that. But the way to see that they were becoming more unified is that is there's an increase in their persecution. Okay. And so they were like a rue. they were being simmered down to the basics of what a real christian was really yeah so over time chronologically with how the letters are written yeah they're getting worse and worse oh yeah wow so when you get to the end of the narrative according to what we think are the time stamps of each book. When you get to Peter,

he's like, the end of all things is here. And John says, we say an antichrist is coming. There's antichrists everywhere. Yeah. I mean, they clearly show that what they were expecting was happening. The bride was being brutalized and even caused Paul to say everything's chaos now I don't even think anything is gonna last yeah that's interesting yeah it's not that's another like way to emphasize both the way you talk about the word the urgency of the time to calm yeah tack us word yeah that is another really interesting part it's so good because as you've gone and

you've learned this you're bringing forth things you know and all of these things create spokes to the hub that give you it but if you only take one you'll never see it and you in a debate or whatever you can only say one at a time in a debate what a waste of time yeah so um okay 43 we have three more in the past thousand years god has worked through men of religious authority to do his bidding on earth supposedly yeah that's what people say yeah and i just would challenge anybody to go in and vet the authority that their church claims and i mean really vet it from the catholics

the orthodox the mormons and luther the protestant anything in there you just go and look at the authority the only way anyone has authority in any of those spectrums is if joseph smith's uh restoration which does not make sense of the priesthood and of everything else actually happened and disembodied spirits came and bestowed power and authority.

But there's so many holes in that, that doesn't even work. The Catholic claim to authority, baloney. Well, yeah, it's, I just, Catholicism is being drilled down our throats lately and it has to be said that they are appealing to it because it's the original authority. And it's like, are you you kidding you think that you like yeah they think they have authority yeah it just is comical yeah i just i can't it's unbelievable anyway yeah all right number 44 one god's tetragrammaton name has been unknown and has been indicated by four letters, Y-H-V-H,

typically pronounced as Yehovah, Yahweh, or Jehovah. What is it now? Okay, it's a soapbox. I'm going to give you two minutes. God said to Moses, I want my name known. God says at the end of Malachi, I want my name known. God says all the Gentiles will know my name. Make my name known. God says all the Gentiles will know my name. Make my name known.

And today online, we have people write G slash D. We have YHWH as Jehovah and Yahweh and all these things. And we say, we don't know the name. Every scholar, we don't know the name. and all these things and we say we don't know the name every scholar we don't know the name and as yeshuans we say we stand with making his name known and we say that his name is yahava yah ha va that is the pronunciation of it we want to make his name known and the meaning of that name is so rich and ripe with beautiful insights we We have a show on it somewhere in there.

Check it out. But I, and you know, there's nothing worse than someone who has their little special interest corner. We have the name and it drives me nuts too, but I'm standing on that one. He wanted his name known. Men have obscured it, especially the Masoretic Jews have obscured it and we say his name was Jehovah and we boldly stand behind it I think the reasonings behind this one are so much more compelling than what I've heard others yeah they're very compelling you guys it's worth a look at the video is called the name of God so you can look at that. And thanks to Adnan who brought that to our attention years ago. Yes.

Okay. Summary. Summaries of the last 2,000 years and the next 2,000 years. The last 2,000 years, the same church that started in the apostolic age continues today. And organized religion is its operational force on earth. Attending, paying, participating, supporting it are central to God's plan for the human world before he returns to destroy us all at the second coming of Christ, which is going to be ushered in by Trump bombing Iran.

No, wait! Just kidding. I never say that word. I don't say that word. That's my daughter. That's my daughter. I mean, Christians are claiming it so hard. Emails to her. I'm not criticizing. I'm very much criticizing. I'm very much criticizing. She has that right. It's not political. It's the politics.

It's beyond politics now, isn't it? Yeah. Wow. And I'm just going to read the summary here. I know you know it, but listen, if you're in this constant organized religion, just understand after 40 years of searching the scripture, we say all that God has done to reconcile the human race to himself has been victoriously achieved by the life, death, resurrection, and ascension and return of his son for his holy and pure bride nearly 2,000 years ago today.

His return, according to Paul, put an abrupt end to all material religion forevermore. Unwilling to see and hear, men have struggled for nearly 2,000 years to create a replica, a non-authorized replica of all that God had finished, and all efforts have and will continue to fail as God has been in direct communication with those who are his from the heart. If you're a seeker, that's you. Join us. Test our stuff. Do not follow us.

We are humans, but we have created this, and we think we can. It stands as strong against any other system out there, and we give it to you freely. We don't wanna start a church. We want you just to become liberated through God. All right, Heart of the Matter epiphany. Boom. Cynhyrchu'r ffordd y byddwn ni'n gwneud. Thanks for watching! you you