Hebrews Chapter 12, Part 2
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Central Claim: Hebrews 12 contrasts the material, fearful religion of Old Testament law (Mount Sinai) with the spiritual, heavenly reality believers now inhabit (heavenly Jerusalem). God has "shaken" the material religious system—culminating in Jerusalem's destruction—leaving only the unshakeable spiritual kingdom that cannot be materially touched or destroyed.
Biblical Basis: The passage emphasizes Hebrews 12:18-29, particularly the declaration "you have not come to Mount Sinai...but to Mount Zion, the heavenly Jerusalem" and "once more I will shake not only the earth but also heaven," meaning all shakeable things will be removed.
Yeshuan Perspective: This exemplifies McCraney's "subjective Christianity"—faith written on individual hearts rather than institutional structures. The material temple system ended; only the unshakeable spiritual reality remains. God continues as a "consuming fire," requiring ongoing reverence and service, but through personal faith relationship rather than material religion. This framework also directly refutes Mormon priesthood claims, as material religious hierarchy is permanently obsolete.
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Hebrews Chapter 12 , Part 2| I Don't Get The Bible by Yeshuans
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Hi everyone, I don't understand the Bible. I'm Delaney. I am Béjorni. And I'm holding my baby Ava. This is my daughter. My last born. She is the daughter of Delaney and Larry. And she joins us today. Thank you for allowing this. Yeah, and I'm in heaven. Um, okay. We're in Hebrews chapter 12 and we're in verse 18.
Um, and we discussed in Hebrew chapter 12 and we're in verse 18. Um, and we discussed the introductory part in the last episode. Therefore, because you did not come to a mountain that could be touched. All right. Stop. All right. This mountain is Sinai. He couldn't touch her. She was trembling. There was thunder. There was lightning. It was terrifying. They couldn't touch her. She was trembling. There was thunder.
There was lightning. It was terrifying. All right. So he said to them, you have not come to this mountain. All right. Go for it. Because they were supposed to go to the mountain. They all gathered at the base and Moses went up to get the law. And he brought. Oh, it's in the past. It's very far. This is the story of Esau.
No, it's after Esau. It tells of when Moses brought the law to the nation of Israel at Mont-Sy. This is the story of Esau. No, it's after Esau. It tells of when Moses brought the law to the nation of Israel at Mont-Sy. All right. Point. Why would he do it? Because we were like the previous verses which spoke of the story of Esau.
Yeah, he just jumps up the mountain. He jumps. Yeah, okay. For you did not come near to a mountain that could be touched and burned with fire, nor to gloom and darkness, darkness and storm, nor to the sound of a trumpet, nor to the noise of words, the noise of those who heard and dealt with, so that nothing more would be said to them.
Go on, I'll explain. For they could not bear what was ordered. And if a beast touched the mountain, it would be stoned or pierced with a dart. That’s how holy this mountain was. And he said he couldn't keep the commandments that were given to them there. But you haven't come to this mountain. He says it is the mountain under the law in the Old Testament.
All right. Point. All right. Point. And the sight was so terrible that Moses said. I am extremely scared and shaking. But you have drawn near to Mont-Sy, to the city of the living God, to Jerusalem heavenly and a multitude of angels. The Jerusalem of what? The heavenly Jerusalem. Not brick and mortar. You didn't come there. You come to the heavenly Jerusalem. Not brick and mortar. You didn't come there.
You come to the heavenly Jerusalem. It's not... The same thing. It's a different mountain. The city of the living God. As if it was... The new Jerusalem. Yeah. It's not here on Earth. But what do people do with it? They don't even pay attention to it. This is insane. I've preached on this so many times and they don't care. They don't even read. They don't even pay attention. This is insane.
I preached on it so many times and they don't care. They don't even read. Keep reading. It's incredible. But you have come near to Mount Zion, to the Church. Firstborns. Inscribed in the heavens, Written in heaven, God God who is the judge of all, of the spirits of the righteous who have reached perfection, of Jesus, the mediator of the new covenant, and of the blood of sprinkling which speaks better than that of Abel.
Be careful not to reject the speaker. For if those who rejected him who spoke on earth did not escape, how much less shall we escape if we turn away from him who speaks from heaven? Yeah, so he says you got it. It's right here. Yeah, he says. Yeah, if he... Scared them on the mountain, the first mountain with Moses.
You think you can reject the person speaking from heaven now? Yeah. And it's like you're not doing that. This is your chance to survive what's about to happen. That's all. Point. So keep going. So keep going. Whose voice then shook the earth, but now has promised, saying once more, I will shake not only the earth, but also heaven. So when we read that there is a new heaven and a new earth, that is what he is describing.
A new heaven with a new Jerusalem on a new earth, which means this is a new covenant and God is going to shake everything in heaven and on earth. Now people say, well, why would he shake everything in heaven? There was an established economy for the Jews in heaven that operated according to the law. And so Satan was an accuser.
And God said, once more I will be shaken in heaven and on earth okay so everything that can be shaken will disappear that's how you have to see it okay and I continue reading and this word again means the removal of those things which who are shaken. Like things that have been done, so that those which cannot be shaken may remain.
All right. It will therefore shake everything that has been done. All right. Like the things that have been done. So it means a material religion. Everything that has been created, he'll shake it until the only thing left cannot be shaken. This is why I say that material religion ended when he destroyed Jerusalem.
He shook the heavens, he shook the earth, he destroyed Jerusalem, he destroyed all vestiges of material religion. And he's going to shake everything up once again. The writer tells them that there is in heaven and on earth. So the only thing left cannot be shaken. Wow! It's really precise. Yes, and this is what he writes on your law, you individually, on your heart subjectively.
The pastor may be shaken. Yeah. Yeah. That says a lot about Christianity they can't imagine. A world where there is a spiritual reality without the material. Oh, I know, they can't imagine it. They can't imagine it. Because they think that everything, what is created is spiritual and comes from God. But he tells them that they have not reached that material place where if an ox touched it, he would be killed. You came, he goes, but you came to a new Jerusalem.
You have come to the city of God full of angels and saints. It's a kingdom completely different. Yeah, and he's in heaven. It's good. This is why we receive a kingdom that does not can be shaken. Yeah, can't be shaken. All other kingdoms on Earth can be shaken. This one cannot be shaken. Let us have the grace by which we can serve God in a way that is pleasing to Him, with reverence and godly fear.
SO. SO ? Yeah, as they are, it's not like this shake according to the writer ends things because he says when we get a kingdom, let's pretend there's more after that. But matter has been shaken to the point that the only thing left is unshakable. This is what God writes in everyone's heart. This is really the chapter on which I base subjective Christianity.
This is insane. Yeah, it is. Very. It is. It's incredible. And I read it to people and they said, I don't know, it's. Like, yeah. This is the best thing I've read so far, I think. Yeah, the author of Hebrews got it all figured out. Wow. I'm interested for exactly the same reasons as you. The author of the Epistle to the Hebrews achieves this perfectly.
Yeah. So wait, it says the time has come. When we receive the kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us have grace, serving a God pleasing to Him, with reverence and godly fear, for our God is a consuming fire, that is all. And that's why people say, why do you continue to teach? Because he hasn't changed. He is still a consuming fire. Yes, he still has a kingdom. And we can still serve it. And we should always serve him. And you have to learn from him.
This is one of the texts which prove that there is a reason why, once everything is shaken and destroyed Jerusalem, faith continues. And that is why we continue to teach, because we believe that God is a consuming fire and that we must continue to serve him. And that's my textual evidence in this chapter. So, okay, the only questions I have are To know to know.
If this can be read as the unmoving celestial realm, and for a Christian it is the afterlife. So it's not about this life, but the next. He would say he could, but he tells them in the previous verses, you didn't come to this mountain, you came to this one. And he describes it to them as existing. All right.
Point. Well, okay, that was my other question. Does it depend on... The end times, like aesthetics, yes, it is. Because the shaking that he speaks of again occurs when this material church is destroyed and that would occur in the destruction of Jerusalem, in the great and dreadful day which would occur at the same time as his coming.
So, from what you read, he tells them as if it was present for them, this condition. So that doesn't make the afterlife and he says that's not yet the case, because there is one more. That's why it feels like it happened. In this generation, because. In their future, these writings. Of these people, because this is going to happen for them in. This life, but it’s not yet.
It's true, yeah. Wow, this is really crazy. And then, when you read the writings of Paul, to balance that, it's a conviction. It's really crazy. And then when you read Paul's writings, to balance that, it's a conviction. It's done. Had you taught Hebrews before becoming a preacher? Yeah. And that contributed to the whole thing.
How do you think you taught this part at that time? I don't know. It's curious. I have to take a look. The Epistle to the Hebrews has done much for you, for the teachings of the Epistle to the Hebrews are your eternal hell. Yeah, the Epistle to the Hebrews. Does a lot. Yeah, it's like the best part of the whole New Testament.
I agree. Actually, I think I'll rephrase that. It's like the heart of the whole New Testament, but we still need the arteries that go to the brain. And Yeah, that's it. I'm just surprised it's not like the first book, but I guess it makes it seem like you had to bring in Christ, but Hebrew is the translation of the Old Testament in Christ.
In Christ. the impression that you had to bring christ but hebrew and the translation of the old testament into christ into christ or is what I guess is irrelevant to the gentiles but it makes sense of the purpose of christ and what it completely does is destroy mormonism and their priesthood and everything they say.
It destroys them. Really. Yeah. And people, you know, they won't know. I don't know how they cover it. Yeah. Hi. How are you ? Well, that's the end of chapter 12. It's a good chapter. It's incredible. I almost want to reread it. Um, to read it. Let me read it again. Once. All right. Pursue peace with all and sanctification, without which no one will see the Lord.
You will not see the Lord if you are not in peace and health. See to it that no one falls short of the grace of God and that no root of bitterness grows to trouble you. So many will be defiled. Let there be a fornicator or a profane person like Esau, who for a piece of meat sold his birthright. a piece of meat sold his birthright.
You know that later, when he wanted to inherit the blessing, he was rejected, because he found no place of repentance, although he sought her with tears. For you have not entered a mountain which could be touched and which was ablaze with fire, neither in the darkness nor in darkness, neither in storm, nor at the sound of a trumpet, nor at the sound of words that they heard, and that we begged that nothing more should be said to them.
For they could not bear what was ordered of them. And if even a beast touched the mountain, it would be pierced with a dart. And the sight was so terrible that Moses said, “I am seized with great fear and trembling. » But you have come near to Mount Zion, and to the city of the living God. But you have come near to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God.
Is not Zion a living thing, a heavenly thing? No. But is it a spiritual thing? Ultimate. Yeah. But. It's good. But maybe that's where the confusion between the fact that it's a real place for people is because it's a reference to something real. Could be. That's good, lover. Continue. E. And to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to the innumerable multitude of angels, to the general assembly.
And unto the church of the firstborn which are written in heaven. And I don't know what all this means. And to the countless multitude of angels, to the general assembly and to the church of the firstborn recorded in heaven, to God, the judge of all, and to the spirits of them. Those who are elected. In heaven to be part of this bride.
Who have been predestined by God to be part of this bride, they are the firstborn of this church which Christ raises up, the Church. Of the firstborn, that is to say the wife. Who are written in the heavens, who are the chosen species. All right. All right. And to God, the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, and to Jesus, the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling.
Here, are we good? This speaks better than what Belle said be careful not to refuse the one who speaks because if those who refused the one who spoke on earth did not escape how much less will we escape if we turn away from him who speaks in heaven, whose voice then shook the earth. » But now he has promised, saying once again that I will shake not only the earth, but also the heaven.
Continue. And this word again means the removal of all those things that are shaken, the rapture. Like this one okay so the things that are shaken in the sky and then this old economy I will give it to you keep this economy in heaven was written for the Jews and they have angels operating above it tends all ok let me give you a moment sorry everyone we're going to wrap up I just wanted to reread that them hi wake up the things that shake in heaven what are the things that shake on earth? You just said it, but what is shaking in the sky?
The way it all happened Everything that worked in the sky Remember there were demons who were in rebellion There was a tip Satan, the angels, he had victory over everything in heaven and on earth Okay And that changed this economy that God established there as well as here with the Jews I see Yeah, okay And then? And that changed this economy that God established there as well as here with the Jews.
I see. Yeah, okay. And then it is said, and this word again. What is the word? It is. They quote somewhere where it says once again I will tremble. All right. So he says. That we are going to conclude. Sorry. It's good. All right. Point. It is. A good chapter. Thank you all. This is an excellent chapter. Good chapter.
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