VIOLENCE: More LDS Bad Fruit

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Central Claim: The LDS Church's documented history of violence, financial fraud, and theocratic governance reveals it as a counterfeit of Christ's way, rooted in the tree of knowledge of good and evil rather than the Father. Its fruit appears good by worldly standards but leads to spiritual death because it contradicts everything Yeshua taught.

Biblical Basis: 1 John 2:16 grounds the argument that lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, and pride of life are not of the Father. Matthew 5:5 and 5:39 (meekness, turning the other cheek) stand in direct contrast to LDS paramilitary history. John 18:36 ("my kingdom is not of this world") refutes theocratic violence entirely.

Yeshuan Perspective: McCraney and Delaney frame LDS institutional violence as inseparable from its theological foundation, not incidental to it. Christiarchy demands allegiance to Christ alone, making all theocratic governance, whether LDS, Calvinist, or Christian nationalist, a category error. Yeshuans reject the arm of the flesh as incompatible with the kingdom Yeshua inaugurated.

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VIOLENCE: More LDS Bad Fruit | Heart of the Matter EPIPHANY

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Hello, hello, hello It's April 28th. This is Heart of the Matter Epiphany.

And we are talking about more bad LDS fruit. This is after our talk about holy lust. That's right. In the past three episodes. That's right. We've been talking about holy lust. We started in on this mini-series describing the biblical basis for Mormonism being a complete counterfeit to the will and ways of God.

So tell us what the basis was, Dad. Well, the basis truly from the Bible is God gave Adam and Eve, our first parents, who represented the whole human race, okay, two trees. He said, eat of this one in faith, trust me, eat of this one and don't eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, all right? And the LDS teach that Eve and then Adam chose to eat of the tree God told them not to, which was in defiance of what he said, and that that was a good thing. And so what that establishes is that they actually promote

a system that dines on the fruit of knowledge of good and evil. And they try to represent the good side in all their presentations. But they still are evil. And we're going to discuss that today, tonight. All right. So because of this, we teach that Mormonism is a world religion. World religion. All religions really are world religions.

Yeah. Yeah. That's a way to put it. Yeah. Meaning it's not God's church. Right. Not even close. Church is even a hard word in this moment, but not God's. Yeah, it's not God's. It's not God's. And that's based on the knowledge of good and evil, this church. And it promotes even directly lust and pride that's of this world.

That's right. And we talked about that in the previous episode. That's right. Because John said all that is in the world, boom, boom, boom, the lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, pride of life is not of the father, but is of this world. And that is, that is hearkening directly to what caused Eve to eat of that tree, which the Mormons say was good.

Yeah. And sets up Mormonism, as we know it, which we went through and we're going to keep going through today in a different way. Yeah. So this is the real fruit of Mormonism. And that's why we're calling it bad fruit. fruit yeah it's a world religion promotes principles of this world uh which are not of the father but appear to be good right they're good in most respects because in this world yeah they appear to teach to be honest good chaste and all these things someone has just to insert someone has told us that we should find a better word for good and bad because there's like nuance to this.

It's it's good fruit in this world. And that's not a bad thing. If what you're looking for is this world. Yeah. What's bad is to say that that good fruit is of God. That's right. And so we're calling it bad fruit because it's not of God. That's right. But it's good fruit in this world. It's a really, it's a hard thing. And because the eating of it leads to death. Yeah. Right.

Meaning it doesn't carry with you into God's kingdom. Yes. That's the death we're talking. We're not talking about like you go to hell and we're talking about it. It's limited. Yeah. It's limited to here. Yeah.

So that's why we always say it's a great church if you want a church be a mormon yeah you can't care about god yeah not really because if you want a church churches of this world that's right that's like the whole that's exactly right okay all right so but the mormon church is a really specific one because they're so um from the ground up based on holy lust the the seeing the fall is a good thing like we've been talking about so that's why it's one to like observe more than others yes with their doctrine and that's right um okay so we've been talking about lust from the justifications of it in D&C 132, which we read entirely.

Was that the last episode or the one before that? No, it was the one before. And the practice of men taking numerous wives in that text to the sexual lust that permeates the minds of members. That was in the previous episode and all under the auspices of good. Yeah. So take a look at that.

We want to show you what they present and let me tell you something what we're about to show you is the it's like almost unbelievable how inviting and light and good it looks and this is straight from the tree of knowledge of good and evil all that is in the the world, the lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, pride of life, is not of the Father but is of this world. Take a look.

Terima kasih telah menonton I will not leave you alone Terima kasih telah menonton The That last shot is the scariest thing I've ever seen they use him he's a tool okay this is the fruit of mormonism what we just watched it appears to be very good like we just said i i don't know one person with their logic that would look at that and not say, that's really good. That's nice. With their logic.

You know? And how many people would look at it and go, that's just evil. No one. Nobody. You look insane when you say that. It's the most diabolical video I've ever seen in my life. Because it is. You need eyes to see through it, guys. Pretty good counterfeit, I would say. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

So we did the dnc we did the lust of men in the last episode so what's next okay tonight let's explore more of the fruit of this counterfeit that came from the tree of knowledge of good and evil and it's a tree that blooms right in the heart of downtown salt lake city so in addition to plural marriage and sexual lust molding up through the crevices of the lds warden stakes the lds church also has and we're just going to go through some highlights on these things a history of violence yeah um here's the important thing about this history.

It's not how Yeshua taught his disciples, which for some reason Christians don't seem to understand, Christians or Mormons, proving again that Mormonism is a religion of this world and not of the Father, because it's not what Yeshua taught. It's not what the disciples taught either.

This is something real followers of Christ have to realize about their own churches and the ideas today, especially in things like Christian nationalism, in my opinion. Yeah, exactly. And it's not just your opinion, Delaney, because if we look, this is the thing, we had a caller call in on the show last Sunday and I lost my, I got angry again. Delaney calmed it down.

But bottom line, people are using Jesus for things that he was never about and they think he was yeah and on that call just as a side he said it doesn't have to be that jesus was about it right he was plain about that right it's just from the logical argument that mormons use themselves right that it's good why wouldn't you it's just like a an abstract yeah an extension of if you believe in what yes you would do you would do all these good things you would want your nation to be christian you know and so they don't that one thing is they don't even care that yes you didn't say it but you can't call it christian no way you can't call it christian no way. So let's talk about, I think, am I ready to go on? Yeah. Let's talk

about the history of the LDS and violence. And this stuff is historical, not making it up. It begins with a group of selected men called the Danites. And during the 1838 Mormon war in Missouri, a vigilante group known as the Danites, the Sons of Dan, was formed. And it was reportedly, with the knowledge of early church leaders, their purpose to intimidate and drive out apostates and enemies of the church.

So they were militant in using the arm of the flesh to fight for their rights. They were described as a secret paramilitary group that engaged in threats and raids and alleged violence against non-Mormons and dissenters of Mormonism in Missouri.

And while Mormon history often distances itself from them, Mormon history does anything it can to try to sanitize itself they represent a secret police that operated under the pretext of defending the church and it resulted in fear and conflict there's plenty of pride within the lds faithful for this violent arm of the early church i mean they really love the fact we had danites i'm talking about the true LDS ones, not these phony kids online trying to...

I'm talking about real... they love the Danite idea. And it's like pro-violence in the name of God. It's the basis for theocracy. So then there was the Nauvoo Legion, and that was a prominent movement. 19th century state authorized militia 1841 to 1845 in Illinois and 1849 to 1870 in Utah and it was created to protect ready to protect members of the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints from persecution so just in that sense what did Yeshua say if you're persecuted he said blessed turn the other cheek yeah suffer suffer it's not

fight back right it's like the clearest message of yeshua one of the greatest even like obscure translation issue it's clear right it's clear not only in that it's also clear in uh revenge vengeance is mine saith the lord yeah it's totally against what the christian ethic is and the christian uh nationalists today are against it too fully against it it was led by joseph smith later brigham young the militia was used for defense local law enforcement and in 1857 skirmishes with the u.S. troops during the Utah War. So the Mormon church had troops that even the Nauvoo Legion fought against the U.S. government troops.

So they are not what you think at their root. Can I ask, do the LDS then or now call these efforts like like, also an extension, like not part of the Mormons, like how they call that fundamentalist Mormons are not the true Mormons. No, but they say it was for a time and place, you know, the nation was developing and there's all these things.

And so it was common and I think they might be right. Now they say that. Yeah, looking back looking back oh then they thought it was just this was mormonism yeah these weren't like extensions no this was mormonism full blown okay yeah and that attitude continues on today as we're going to discover later uh and so at its height in illinois the legion boasted 2,500 soldiers or members and was renowned for its structure, cavalry, infantry, and it was considered one of the largest militias in the U.S. at the

time. Additionally, Joseph Smith served as the first lieutenant general, followed by Brigham Young and Daniel H. Wells here in Utah in 1857, the Legion acting as the Utah Territorial Militia. You hear of militias? Right there, Mormonism had a huge militia. I believe this is going to draw the more radically inclined people as the nation gets worse and worse to kind of sidle up with the Mormon idea of militias, and it's going to return in some effort behind this worldly empire.

Christian nationalism is about teaming up with whatever that's right. Agenda is has nothing to do with teaming up over Christ. Nothing. And we defend our Messiah. We stand with him. We don't stand with this phony religion. And so anyway, they tried to stop invading U.S. troops from coming into Utah. Wow. Yeah.

And you can like hear the logic of people today in this. Just like, why wouldn't I? Yeah. Why wouldn't we do that? Yeah. We heard it last week. Yeah. Why wouldn't we go after Muslims who are killing Christians? Yeah. You know.

Well, jesus said not to i mean i don't know what to say i i think what really is proven is that the logic and the rationale of yeshua is not of this world yeah like it does not function on the way that our human instinct does right and christians and mormons have gotten that mistaken you mistake your instinct for he's given us this that's right this is how we should act right now let me ask you according to what we know about uh the garden and what god told man to do does men have the right to govern this world in these different ways yeah that's the it just is that that's a worldly thing that's right to say it's the Christian thing right and that's what we're

really trying to make clear here as yeshwans we're trying to say we understand there's a spirit of man and men and women have the right to govern themselves here on this earth but when they say this is of god and god wants this we say do not do that that's not fair it's not fair to people who differ with you on these earthly decisions and we are really frankly sick of it that the name of our god and our lord is being used by people for their agendas it makes me sick oh man okay it seems like there are there are more examples there are that mormon between

Do you remember that one? Want me to talk about that? Sure. Yeah. There are about 500 members and they were pro-U.S. army during the Mexican-American War. They marched about 2,000 miles from Iowa to San Diego. The Mormons hold that up as an example of them being patriotic.

groups uh the in through the foundational threads of mormonism the next violent offense should not surprise anybody and that's known as the mountain meadows massacre right have you heard much about that in your growing up that's the one i've heard about you you refer to that because you almost assigned to the spirit of this state I do that's that's me but bottom line I believe that blood shed blood of innocence does something to empower world powers I think the fact that we just saw that video from the Mormon church was empowered by them killing literally lining men women children up and assassinating them in southern

Utah. This was an innocent party just traveling through. And people try to say that Brigham Young didn't know anything about it and all that stuff. All we know is the LDS did it and it has ordained this state in the blood of innocents. they put it all on a guy named john d lee who was executed in 1877 and he's the only person who has held legally accountable but i mean right right there um that is just central to the um heartbeat of mormon. It's their fruit. Yeah. It's, and I, I see whether it's a like mystical

thing where the blood ordains the power or a pragmatic thing where you have to be violent to get a system to have power in this world. Like, because you're a system excludes and someone's going to come fighting you and you have to fight back right like that is what a system does to protect your territory yeah and so you know it has to be violent and that's what we're talking through is that it gets worse and worse the bigger it is and that's what i love about my partnership with dell is that i come with a very

metaphysical approach she comes with a more pragmatic i mean it's true if you have some system you're gonna defend it and even kill innocent people along the way it's but i can easily be mystical it just it's both yeah and then hand in hand with these violent groups and actions, there was a belief that to be atoned.

And while the data on that doctrine has certainly created an atmosphere of paranoia when it existed, the historical accounts of violent retribution against those who violated church law was absolutely present. Church law. Church law. That's right, Delaney. It is known as theocracy. Church laws, you know, we had a good, that kid's in my mind.

He called about the Sharia law, Sharia law. Well, you know, Mormons had their theocratic law and Calvin had his theocratic law and the Catholic Church has their theocratic law the Vatican it's theocracy and it's evil in my opinion I ask I'm so curious to know what any Christian nationalist would call that in reference to Sharia law because they are the same they would say they have a they have a theocratic law and we have a theocratic law and we have the true king and ours is better so yeah as the Mormons Mormons would say Brigham Young

had the correct the that's right there so therefore we could slay people out in there yeah yeah ding ding ding not not ding Delaney ding on what you just pointed out yes you wins we renounce all theocracy yeah we have a do you agree with a clear divided line between church and state yeah I mean we've been we our family you have been talking about this in other ways for the whole duration of the ministry.

Christianity is not in any group or way of life or lifestyle or doctrine. There's no way of doing it. It's not a material thing. That's right. There's no Christian music. There's no Christian art. There's no Christian clothing. And that's all Christianity is known for is their clothing, their art, their music.

Their politics. Yeah. And it's the cart before the horse. Yeah. Yeah. And so now it's political. And now it's literally the government is having it. America reads the Bible. Yeah Bible and we're standing up. Like, I don't know how Christians think that isn't Sharia law. I know. And what about Christians in Vietnam reading the Bible? And I mean, what do they think will happen when we have two different countries reading the Bible, but we go to war I can't I can't but they use the Old Testament most of them use the Old Testament

as justification for this and they totally discount what Yeshua's life was relative to politics in this world they just throw it out the window so it seemed we okay yeah I could get into this for a long time but but we should maybe move on. Maybe on Sunday's call-in show, we'll open up with more talk about this because it's something that's pressing.

And then we've talked about maybe next week having a conversation all about Christian nationalism relative to what Christianity really is. nationalism relative to what Christianity really is.

Yeah, as we focus on Mormonism's violent history and criminal history today, we'll get into the larger umbrella of the current moment and how Mormons maybe are involved in that. Excellent. Okay, so as these Mormon settlers expanded, they were involved in violent conflicts with indigenous tribes. Yeah, they don't talk much about that, do they? There's a few. The Walker War, the Black Hawk War, the 1850 Battle Creek Massacre. That one is where Mormon militia members killed several members of the Tipanagos tribe.

I'm so bad. Tipanagos. I got the Tipanagos and then the eight i can't and then the uh 1866 circleville massacre um that one is where mormon settlers murdered piute men women and children yeah so i mean we aren't supposed to murder at all and the Mormons are murdering yeah killing and then they say at least Christians here I'm sure they would Mormons would in these instances too would say it's in defense and it's like okay yeah you're not supposed to defend yourself either I know you're supposed to die even. You might die for your faith.

For your faith. And that's the key to what she just said. For the faith. If it's property rights, that's between you and how you are governed here on this earth. But don't tie it to God and justify murdering over property rights as a Christian. Yeah.

Yeah. So from these seas watered, the blood watered, excuse me, in the blood of innocence in the, uh, and, and, uh, in the name of God, the LDS church has a continuous threat of violence that pops up every now and again in their history. And as it become more civilized, these things have faded, but they still exist. We remember Mark Hoffman back in the day blowing up people over some church artifacts.

The Lafferty Brothers, covered by Under the Banner of Heaven by John Krakauer, a great book. You should read it. And other violent references to its history through men like like david mitchell and wanda barzy who kidnapped and repeatedly raped a young 14 i think she was maybe younger innocent teenage mormon girl from her house elizabeth smart in the name in the same name of all that the founders produced that is not an aberration and what most people don't see or realize is that if you can, you can go, I don't know if the sports program is still big in the

Mormon church, but every weekend when I grew up at the stake center and the ward level, you had basketball, volleyball, you had softball tournaments, and they were always breaking out in fistfights and battles. Yeah. Everybody was always, there's always going to be a fistfight or a battle in those days.

These are Christians. And I would watch that and I would say, what is going on here? That's really wild. I don't know if that would happen today. No? To be honest. I think culturally the kids do not fight. They're pansies. They probably don't even play basketball. They probably don't.

They're playing video games or something. I don't think you know, they think you're screaming at them when you're just talking with them. Like they're very they're not as violent. but then they go out and like shoot up schools so they're not violent with each other but they're angry or they come to with a gun and they shoot charlie kirk in the head apparently i'm sorry we're not political but here in utah a mormon kid comes from southern utah with his old rifle and he takes out charlie kirk and if he't, he at least put his face on that.

Yeah. Somehow. Yeah. He was willing to somehow be a part. Tied to the fruit of that tree, you guys. We're not making it up. Okay. Yeah. That is the list of violence. Yeah. There's probably so much more oh there is it kind of shows the escalation and down into even just the recreational events when you were when you were a kid it's just there there's angers i need to defend yeah uh feeling like one thing i wanted to say too when we were talking is i think there's a mistake when people say they are willing to die for their faith and that's when they're willing to die in war for their faith.

They go out to fight for the faith and it's righteous death. It's not righteous if you are peacemaker and get killed. Do you get what I'm saying yeah like that christians don't see being killed they see it as weak yeah there's weakness and they don't like weakness so is there some what is that all mormons too same thing and it's all the flesh it's of this world because might makes right yeah you know and it's the it's the uh the domination of the strongest species.

Yeah. And that is of this world. But, and Christ, we talked about this example on the call-on show, where he wasn't weak in certain times. He went in with whips into the temple. But we identify that that's not an of this world thing. It's a religious thing. Is that correct? Is that the only time that he showed strength? It's the only time he showed strength.

And remember, they were under the law. And so that they were under a law that says, if you take an eye, you give an eye. So him doing that was not, he fulfilled the law. That was not counter to his message because he was talking to Jews at that time and they were breaking the rules of the of the temple but to use that as an example of how to be violent today as a Christian it does not fit with the context of what he did that for and in he said be meek and what meekness is really defined as is not weakness but it is the willingness to respond softly to invasions and to being hurt and be offended and being attacked.

Meekness is not being weak, but it's strongly responding, not through violence, but just through logic and reason and love. Weakness is actually violence. Yeah. That's kind of the turn from... Okay, so amongst all the violence, there's also a slew of lies, deception, and financial crimes that happened in the LDS church, would you say? Oh, yeah.

And where does that start from? It starts from the founder. The founder. Of course it does. From the tree comes the fruit. From the fruit come the seed. From the seed comes more fruit and on and on and on. In 1826, Joseph Smith, four years before establishing the Mormon Church in 1830, when he was 20 years old, he was brought before Judge Albert Neely on March 20th.

And the complaint was initiated by the nephew of Josiah Stoll, who feared Joseph Smith was defrauding his uncle. How? Joseph Smith went about and claimed to be able, and all you need to do is read D. Michael Quinn's books on early Mormon history and the magic worldview.

And you'll get a volume this thick about what Joseph Smith was doing. This is just one instance. He pretended that he could see buried treasure through looking in a hat or through a stone or through witching rods. And he could determine where that buried treasure was on lands that people own. Josiah stole, hired him to come and find buried treasure.

One thing Joseph Smith did in that con was when he would say it's here, they would dig and they wouldn't find anything. He'd say a demon took it and moved it over there. Oh my gosh. He was such a con man from the get go. He was charged being a disorderly person and a vagabond and being a fortune teller claiming to be able to find Taylor. We don't give any, we give nothing on verbal misconduct.

in our family. So and then you know there's a whole bunch of stuff about him not being guilty but there's a whole bunch of court evidence that says Joseph Smith and guilty so whatever he was that all you got even Richard Bushman in whatever book he wrote Rough Stone Rolling talks about it too.

All right and then also 11 years later Smith Smith, he creates this church, you know, he's got people following him and, uh, it, he creates a bank and he called it the anti-bank, the anti-banking system in Kirtland, Ohio. Yeah. Yeah. It's like gnarly. Yeah. We're going to create the anti-bank and the unchartered bank collapsed because of mismanagement and fraud. And they, they issued their own currency.

Like they issued their own dollar bills and stuff, which proved to be worthless. And many members lost all their savings. There was great dissent in the anti-bank collapse, and it prompted Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon to flee from hostile creditors. Wow. All church history. You can't sweep it under the bank. Under the carpet.

But bottom line, this is the root of what created the money to give us that presentation yeah all right then to modern age partly because of high trust within the community mormons just look like you can trust them sadly the u.

s the utah and the lds community at large have historically been hot spots for what's called affinity fraud yeah uh this is where fraudsters use shared religious ties to exploit investors in the 70s and 80s lds general authority paul h dunn involved in a scandal um he was involved in a scandal involving the sale of bogus securities through a company called navstat with some investors allegedly relying on his church status to invest.

And you don't know this because you weren't alive, but when Paul Dunn, he was a general authority for the Mormon church. And in the seventies, if Paul Dunn was coming to your stake to speak, everybody came. Oh, wow. Because he was the most magnificent speaker and teller of tales. Wow. He had stories that were just amazing. Wow. Him being almost a pro baseball player and him getting something shot off in war and going to someone's house to tell their parents that their partner in combat had died tearful emotional stories paul dunn and then they found out he was making it all up

and he got demon all most of the stories and he got demoted he was made uh emeritus general authority and all of these tapes and stories that he was known for causing the Mormons to weep from the same fraudulent storytelling as Joseph Smith. The interesting thing, do you know where we live downtown where we have that mural on the wall of the building down off fourth west as you park across from that big mural that's of the sergeant peppers and all these things they stuck paul dunn's face in there his face is in there as a mockery of just this icon of of weirdness it's so funny that is so

funny yeah and the mark hoffman uh con with artifacts which sucked in the mormon church and caused all kinds of chaos with bombings and you can read about that in salamander the book mark hoffman uh he he conned the mormon church leaders and they come out looking so bad at what he did all through the same financial fraud that goes on yeah it's it's like they the reality is joseph smith wrote the belief system and it rewards being a charismatic con man really does like that's that is what m Mormons love you just love it when you're a

Mormon yeah when someone can tell a story well oh yeah it's like the the structure is built off of those people hero worship of men yeah the testimony meaning yes whose testimony is better delivered that's right you cry when you're sitting yes that was such a good talk emotions yeah and that's why i'm so much against emotions in the faith yeah you know it's about learning facts that we deem as facts yes and then going off that and forget emotions because mormonism is all emotional yeah and by the way

who was it who said you don't know Hitler through facts you know him through your feelings and people have said they were like a proponent of him yeah like like like one of his side you know him through your feelings and that people who are alive today have been said I saw him speak and it filled the place with electricity he was so good at grabbing an audience and that's what they that's what Smith was he was good at that and Paul Dunn was and it goes in with the being able to trick people financially that's why this place Utah was named the fraud capital of the

United States at one time oh like in thes, because the fraud was so ubiquitous based off affinity investing, which is like, hey brother, I've got a thing you should look at. Oh, okay, what is it? The Mormon church could just be called affinity fraud in general. The whole thing is, the whole, I mean, every church really.

Because everything is about affinity. You gain a community. You have someone to help you move. You learn about what to invest in. Everything. You gain from affinity with a church. You do not gain when you do it our way to the point where someone who calls in and defends Christian nationalism cannot understand why you would do it our way he literally asked what's the point yeah he he like he stuttered he couldn't even get it he laughed at us when you say and when you say the point is you want to know God they're like what like it's confusing to

them yeah so and you know I have long personally and Delaney is too, we really, I think our family generally hates most malignant cultures. Yeah. And they just prey upon emotions and the gullibility and the naivete of others and on their weakness and wanting to belong. And all of this is part of that affinity that Delaney is talking about.

Also, the AFCO financial scandal of the 1980s. Former LDS Bishop was involved in that and former high councilman. And as recently as 2023, Michael Beasley and Jeffrey Judd, they operated a $500 millionon ponzi scheme targeting members of the church in las vegas and utah why because they're gullible look at if you can have people who believe that their founder translated a book buried in a hill golden plates by looking into a rock those members will buy into anything they are gullible they're buying into

that that video the church just put out because if you read the comments below that that's disturbing I feel the spirit so strongly watching this I know the church is true when I look at this yeah blah blah blah blah blah blah they just are gullible that is going to be a good episode next week. Because this is all what's feeding Christian nationalism.

Like all of these rationales are what have gotten to the point where we're going to try to take over the world as a country. Yes. Because of it. we're at that level with a mandate from god oh my gosh yeah it's like completely illogical people yeah like there's no lot like you're saying the feeling and it's like as clear as day and that doesn't matter to anyone following. It doesn't matter.

No, no. All right. Okay, let's keep going through some examples. Should we get on to 2023 SEC charges? No, we'll go up above. We've talked about the Mark Hoffman forgeries and murders. There's a massive scandal of fraud against, I did mention it, but that's another one. And then in 2019, now this is bringing it more current.

A guy named David Nielsen, he's a former portfolio manager for the LDS owned Ensign Peak. He filed a whistleblower complaint with the IRS alleging, listen to the allegation, that the church stockpiled over 100 billion, billion, of funds that were used for commercial purposes including a bailout for the lds's beneficial life insurance company and the construction of the city creek center mall in salt lake city that made that took them from having donated assets that are supposed to be used for helping the poor and the widows and all that and they used it for building up more assets and

that was what the whole lawsuit and that led to subsequent law suits making members seek for it to recover donations and that includes the Huntsman family that does the Huntsman Cancer Center all Mormon well most of our Mormon they came and they wanted their money back yeah because they were caught again and then most recently Delaney tell us about if you want the Security and Exchange Commission charging the LDS with investment fraud.

They charged them and its investment management firm, Enzyme Peak Advisors, with failing to disclose a portfolio that grew to approximately 32 billion dollars they i'm scared of not disclosing 500 that i made at a random job and they get away with that right to obscure the portfolio's size from public view the church and ends it i'm peak is it ends in your enzyme uh ensign and peak created 13 shell companies with locations throughout the u.

s filing form 13f in the names of these companies rather than their own total shell game yeah that's wild the result the church and its investment firm paid five million million in penalties to settle charges with the church, stating that they relied on legal counsel and they regret mistakes made in reporting.

Yeah, they put it all on their lawyers. When you know good... These guys are all like business moguls. Wow. We didn't know. And they paid $5 million. $5 million. And so I put that note there. On didn't know. And they paid five million. Five mil. And so I put that note there. On 32 billion. No, that's on a 32 billion dollar fraud.

Non-disclosure, yeah. Yeah, but if you look at how much they paid relative to their net worth, which is probably close to a half a trillion. Oh my gosh, insane. That's like a millionaire being fined a thousand dollars. Yeah, it really is. Yeah. That really is yeah that really is um yeah which means he gets to keep 999 000 yeah of his million that's right that's what it's akin to they paid it and it was washed swept under the rug again completely and the oh, we don't know. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they don't give a rat's

rear end about the truth. They care about it working for them in this world and calling it Jesus Church and it doesn't fit. We sound like we're really brutally against the Mormon church. We are. We're against every church, every single religious institution that puts people in bondage, that lies, that does not represent who Yeshua was, who was a peacemaker. He was merciful. He was kind.

He said, turn the other cheek. He said, my kingdom's not of this world or my servants would fight. He said all sorts of things completely ignored by religious institutions today we cannot stand them but we love people seeking god who are in them yes all right and i would venture to say there is no group that can actually demonstrate that it's not possible as a group because eventually you have to turn the other cheek and that doesn't work as a company as a church as a you know it doesn't work and so what

you're describing now is the difference between god says it this way man says it this way man's ways work for this world god's ways work for the heavenly kingdom and you cannot mix them can't mix them nope all right next week we're gonna parlay off this examination of Mormon fruit and show how any and every religious institution that uses the name of Christ to engage in crime, lust, violence, or political action to theocratically try and govern the world is not and never has been part of what Christ brought to earth.

In other words, we're going to address the hot growing topic where a lot of our dear friends actually and supporters are even part of. And that's this Christian nationalist movement that is afoot. It has been afoot over the centuries, and we're going to learn about that and how ever since Christ had the victory, men have tried to make it a national theocracy.

They think it's like something new. Or they're like part of a righteous new thing. Not new. If you care about God keep watching us. If you don't turn the channel and leave us alone. See you later.